AtD translation: a field of bells emerged into flower

Mike Weaver mike.weaver at zen.co.uk
Mon Feb 18 09:06:09 CST 2019


Fair enough,
I'll put down my shovel.

On 18/02/2019 14:47, David Morris wrote:
> Right.  It's the bells that are "flowering" at noontide:  They are 
> ringing!
> It's really that simple.
>
> David Morris
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:34 AM Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jstremmel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Mike, Mike, Mark and whoever cares,
>
>     Pynchon begins his sentence, his paragraph, his chapter with
>     "Across the
>     city" – the city obviously being Venice, not Murano, where the
>     boys happen
>     to come swooping in over. There's no need for a glance at Google
>     maps, no
>     more than for reading what is written there, anyway.
>
>     Don't think I'm riffing, btw.
>
>     Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Mike Weaver <
>     mike.weaver at zen.co.uk <mailto:mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>>:
>
>     > A quick glance at Google Maps reveals the whole of the north of the
>     > island is green space and there are other patches to the south
>     of that.
>     > And we are talking about  100 years ago and more when those
>     spaces might
>     > well have been fields rather than parks. And there are probably
>     several
>     > campanulas native or endemic to Italy. The only one it is
>     unlikely to be
>     > is Italian Bellflower which is native to the mountains.
>     > It is always enjoyable reading the riffing that many of you
>     enjoy as a
>     > response to P's writing, but sometimes that is what they are -
>     riffs,
>     > and the original is at base a poetic description.
>     >
>     > cheers
>     > Mike
>     >
>     >
>     > On 18/02/2019 07:43, Jochen Stremmel wrote:
>     > > Right, Mike, there surely is no field of bellflowers in Venice,
>     > especially
>     > > not one that emerges at noontide into flower and could be seen
>     from a
>     > > balloon.
>     > >
>     > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 06:42 Uhr schrieb Mike Jing <
>     > > gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>>:
>     > >
>     > >> This sound/image did cross my mind, but I wasn't sure. Is
>     there place
>     > for
>     > >> a field of bellflowers in Murano/Venice? That's noticeable from a
>     > balloon?
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:07 AM Jochen Stremmel
>     <jstremmel at gmail.com <mailto:jstremmel at gmail.com>>
>     > >> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >>> What about the bells of Venice, the city, ringing at
>     noontide with all
>     > >>> their might, and the flower being a metaphor for just this?
>     > >>>
>     > >>> J
>     > >>>
>     > >>> Am Sa., 16. Feb. 2019 um 04:46 Uhr schrieb David Morris <
>     > >>> fqmorris at gmail.com <mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>
>     > >>>> :
>     > >>>> My take:
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> Island Murano's fame is its glass monopoly.  The objects,
>     chimneys,
>     > that
>     > >>>> rise, "emerge," above the red clay roofs, are from glass
>     furnaces.
>     > Maybe
>     > >>>> the flower imagery is from smoke plumes, but that's pretty
>     weak. But
>     > >>> might
>     > >>>> that smoke be blue, like the bell flower?
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> David Morris
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 8:22 PM Mike Weaver
>     <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk <mailto:mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>>
>     > >>> wrote:
>     > >>>>> campanula's are known as bell flowers as here
>     > >>>>> <
>     > https://www.123rf.com/photo_55855915_field-with-wild-bellflower.html
>     > >>>>> On 16/02/2019 00:49, Mike Jing wrote:
>     > >>>>>> P243.1-6   Across the city noontide a field of bells
>     emerged into
>     > >>>> flower,
>     > >>>>>> as the boys came swooping in over Murano, above
>     wide-topped red-clay
>     > >>>>>> chimneys the size of smokestacks, known as fumaioli,
>     according to
>     > >>> the
>     > >>>>> local
>     > >>>>>> pilot, Zanni. “Very dangerous, the sparks, they could
>     blow up the
>     > >>>>> balloon,
>     > >>>>>> certo,” drops of perspiration flying off his face at all
>     angles, as
>     > >>> if
>     > >>>>>> self-propelled.
>     > >>>>>>
>     > >>>>>> What does "a field of bells emerged into flower" mean here?
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