AtD translation: the title

[Mike Jing]

The exact term is probably not the most important thing at this stage. I
think I have to get the idea right first and foremost, so your explanation
and David's suggestions are both very helpful. I understand there are
multiple connotations and interpretations possible, and I have to be aware
of them first, only then will I be able to try and find ways to incorporate
them into proper words. The terms will come last because even the same
concept could be worded in many different ways.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 12:17 AM John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike, is there a term for "the day" in Chinese that is closer to "the
> time" or "the era"? For me Against the Day's title conveys a strong
> sense of working in opposition to the prevailing spirit of a culture,
> or historical period, or hegemony.
> In English this use is common in phrases such as "back in the day" or
> "the olden days" or "in my day" which don't refer to a specific moment
> but to a general (and generally nostalgic) timeframe.
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 4:12 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Remember, "against" primarily denotes opposition, an active fight against
> > something or someone.  Other meanings are secondary.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:03 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, David. That helps a lot.
> > >
> > > It's various versions of "until that day" or "be ready for that day".
> > > Although it cannot be directly adopted word for word, the important
> idea is
> > > there, and that's something I can work with.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:51 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> See how your Bible scholars have translated these KJV verses.
> > >>
> > >> David Morris
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 9:48 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> [image: Unchecked Copy Box] 2Ti 1:12
> > >>> <https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2ti/1/12/s_1126012>
> > >>> For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not
> > >>> ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is
> > >>> able to keep thatwhich I have committed unto him against that day.
> > >>>
> > >>> [image: Unchecked Copy Box] Est 3:14
> > >>>>>> <https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/est/3/14/s_429014>
> > >>>>>> The copy of the writing for a commandment to be given in every
> > >>>>>> province was published unto all people, that they should be ready
> against
> > >>>>>> that day.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
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