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[Mark Thibodeau]

Um... Hi there, Mr Botany B!

I suspect your contributions here are going to be... interesting.

Yours sincerely;
Jerky LeBoeuf



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On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:50 AM <Plainmrbotanyb at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Georgy-porgy pudding and pie
>
> Kissed the girls and made them cry
>
> When the boys came out to play
>
> Little Georgie ran away
>
> If someone, however, does play a lot with the boys, then the rhyme isn't
> completely applicable.  And the current POTUS (not comfortable with this
> locution, does anyone else recoil from it I wonder) plays with boys,
> although it may not be as much fun for them as they might wish, by many
> accounts.
>
> Does Peter T Hooper practice this behavior himself? It's always easiest to
> criticize one's own faults in others.
>
> It's only a nursery rhyme (it's only a northern song) but it does have
> ramifications
>
> - to wit, this Georgie, does he eat the pudding and pie? (high sugar
> consumption may be linked to his behavior)
>
> Or is he being compared to pudding and pie?
>
> If so, perhaps his softness and sweetness make him somewhat attractive but
> again, perhaps not highly nutritive.
>
> One envisions him on a playground,  seeking out a female group engaged in
> behaviors which may include non-stereotypical interactions and physicality,
> let's not assume that feminine means passive, because playground memory
> informs one quite otherwise - but attempting inappropriate forms of
> touching. How do we know it's inappropriate? Because they cry!
>
> Why do they cry? Maybe they are perplexed by his attempt to sexualize a
> social situation. Or they feel sorry for him. It's possible that his likely
> size differential and a presumable lack of finesse makes his approaches
> painful for them. Or they lament the interruption of the activity they were
> previously enjoying.
>
> When the boys come out to play, let one again not imagine their activities
> as only rough-and-tumble,  but also verbal and communicative, trying out
> attitudes and postures. His impulse to kiss girls finds no place in this
> group, although it could, if he voiced them and sought reactions - hey, do
> you guys ever want to kiss those girls? Or, that Betty Lou sure is cute. By
> a sorting process, as the other boys express their thoughts, a rough
> consensus on a range of attitudes could be added to the group vocabulary
> and Georgie could probably find a place. Boys can be very accepting!
> (Again, playground memories)
>
> After his deserved rebuff by the girls, and perhaps because his sugar high
> has worn off - and maybe because he feels he lacks the presentation skills
> to hang with the boys - he runs away.
>
> One hopes there is hope for Georgie! To freeze him there as he runs away
> (ignoring the fact that he's in motion: Zeno to the contrary,  he will get
> somewhere else, eventually)
> and make up an
> -ism to fling pejoratively and anonymously at the (currently ensconced,
> despite numerous well-deserved asterisks) CinC of the bewilderingly huge US
> military (if you could take all that talent and do something not even
> constructive, but just not destructive, with it!) seems unkind.
>
> Vilifying millions of guys named Donald with an even less well-defined
> -ism is even worse!
>
>  Who is Peter T Hooper to prescribe? In the context of a pseudonymous post
> referring to the works of an author not only commercially successful, but
> critically acclaimed, can he seriously claim that his commentary adds to an
> understanding of Pynchon or that his political views are buttressed by
> Pynchon's work?
>
> There don't seem to be reflections of a strong urging to matrimony in the
> oeuvre, do there?
>
> (Although there are some indications, true: Noseworth, a soldier in M&D,
> the Marquis de Sod, practically all of BE, in which even the bad guy is
> somewhat redeemed by his marriage to the Guatemalan woman, not to mention
> Pappy Hod and Paola with her Miraculous Medal)
>
> Or that this will avoid exacerbating size discrepancy between the sexes?
> (There is Flange's attraction in "Lowlands" for Nerissa, abandoning Cindy,
> which few would call normative)
>
> Mr Pynchon himself rocks above-average stature and does it with aplomb
> according to a personal account on the late lamented Spermatikos Logos. As
> a person who achieved success, without much or any viciousness, and with
> that credential and his personal characteristics, gained access to a
> "field," which he reportedly "played" at some times in his life, when not
> pledged in wedlock, with consenting partners, and no accounts call him into
> question of heartlessness or mindlessness, do they? - as such a person, his
> actions, and those of many who have engaged in multiple relationships
> without exploitation or coercion, perhaps even including yourself - call
> for a more informed analysis: is there a place for evanescent romance? Is
> there a reason for it? Does it contain an inherent vice? Does that render
> it something to avoid? How should we proceed? How can you know in advance
> if something will work out? Tell me, where is fancy bred?
>
> The world, Monsieur Hooper, is vaster than your categories. (Though I hope
> neither of us wants to make the girls cry)
>
> I join you in support of the current, Democratic, fairly elected Speaker
> of the House. One might be happier with her supporting the Green New Deal,
> inter alia, but one could always be happier, eh?
> --
> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>

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