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Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Mar 31 06:58:19 CDT 2019


yea, welcome but There ain't no binary AMONG you and Peter Hooper, I say....

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Um... Hi there, Mr Botany B!
>
> I suspect your contributions here are going to be... interesting.
>
> Yours sincerely;
> Jerky LeBoeuf
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> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:50 AM <Plainmrbotanyb at protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Georgy-porgy pudding and pie
> >
> > Kissed the girls and made them cry
> >
> > When the boys came out to play
> >
> > Little Georgie ran away
> >
> > If someone, however, does play a lot with the boys, then the rhyme isn't
> > completely applicable.  And the current POTUS (not comfortable with this
> > locution, does anyone else recoil from it I wonder) plays with boys,
> > although it may not be as much fun for them as they might wish, by many
> > accounts.
> >
> > Does Peter T Hooper practice this behavior himself? It's always easiest
> to
> > criticize one's own faults in others.
> >
> > It's only a nursery rhyme (it's only a northern song) but it does have
> > ramifications
> >
> > - to wit, this Georgie, does he eat the pudding and pie? (high sugar
> > consumption may be linked to his behavior)
> >
> > Or is he being compared to pudding and pie?
> >
> > If so, perhaps his softness and sweetness make him somewhat attractive
> but
> > again, perhaps not highly nutritive.
> >
> > One envisions him on a playground,  seeking out a female group engaged in
> > behaviors which may include non-stereotypical interactions and
> physicality,
> > let's not assume that feminine means passive, because playground memory
> > informs one quite otherwise - but attempting inappropriate forms of
> > touching. How do we know it's inappropriate? Because they cry!
> >
> > Why do they cry? Maybe they are perplexed by his attempt to sexualize a
> > social situation. Or they feel sorry for him. It's possible that his
> likely
> > size differential and a presumable lack of finesse makes his approaches
> > painful for them. Or they lament the interruption of the activity they
> were
> > previously enjoying.
> >
> > When the boys come out to play, let one again not imagine their
> activities
> > as only rough-and-tumble,  but also verbal and communicative, trying out
> > attitudes and postures. His impulse to kiss girls finds no place in this
> > group, although it could, if he voiced them and sought reactions - hey,
> do
> > you guys ever want to kiss those girls? Or, that Betty Lou sure is cute.
> By
> > a sorting process, as the other boys express their thoughts, a rough
> > consensus on a range of attitudes could be added to the group vocabulary
> > and Georgie could probably find a place. Boys can be very accepting!
> > (Again, playground memories)
> >
> > After his deserved rebuff by the girls, and perhaps because his sugar
> high
> > has worn off - and maybe because he feels he lacks the presentation
> skills
> > to hang with the boys - he runs away.
> >
> > One hopes there is hope for Georgie! To freeze him there as he runs away
> > (ignoring the fact that he's in motion: Zeno to the contrary,  he will
> get
> > somewhere else, eventually)
> > and make up an
> > -ism to fling pejoratively and anonymously at the (currently ensconced,
> > despite numerous well-deserved asterisks) CinC of the bewilderingly huge
> US
> > military (if you could take all that talent and do something not even
> > constructive, but just not destructive, with it!) seems unkind.
> >
> > Vilifying millions of guys named Donald with an even less well-defined
> > -ism is even worse!
> >
> >  Who is Peter T Hooper to prescribe? In the context of a pseudonymous
> post
> > referring to the works of an author not only commercially successful, but
> > critically acclaimed, can he seriously claim that his commentary adds to
> an
> > understanding of Pynchon or that his political views are buttressed by
> > Pynchon's work?
> >
> > There don't seem to be reflections of a strong urging to matrimony in the
> > oeuvre, do there?
> >
> > (Although there are some indications, true: Noseworth, a soldier in M&D,
> > the Marquis de Sod, practically all of BE, in which even the bad guy is
> > somewhat redeemed by his marriage to the Guatemalan woman, not to mention
> > Pappy Hod and Paola with her Miraculous Medal)
> >
> > Or that this will avoid exacerbating size discrepancy between the sexes?
> > (There is Flange's attraction in "Lowlands" for Nerissa, abandoning
> Cindy,
> > which few would call normative)
> >
> > Mr Pynchon himself rocks above-average stature and does it with aplomb
> > according to a personal account on the late lamented Spermatikos Logos.
> As
> > a person who achieved success, without much or any viciousness, and with
> > that credential and his personal characteristics, gained access to a
> > "field," which he reportedly "played" at some times in his life, when not
> > pledged in wedlock, with consenting partners, and no accounts call him
> into
> > question of heartlessness or mindlessness, do they? - as such a person,
> his
> > actions, and those of many who have engaged in multiple relationships
> > without exploitation or coercion, perhaps even including yourself - call
> > for a more informed analysis: is there a place for evanescent romance? Is
> > there a reason for it? Does it contain an inherent vice? Does that render
> > it something to avoid? How should we proceed? How can you know in advance
> > if something will work out? Tell me, where is fancy bred?
> >
> > The world, Monsieur Hooper, is vaster than your categories. (Though I
> hope
> > neither of us wants to make the girls cry)
> >
> > I join you in support of the current, Democratic, fairly elected Speaker
> > of the House. One might be happier with her supporting the Green New
> Deal,
> > inter alia, but one could always be happier, eh?
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