Not Pynchon but Kosinski (probably)

[rich]

Ive always wondered about the full transparent horror witnessed vs that
horror implied. The Painted Bird and other such films like Klimov's Come
and See being examples of the former, the (more recent) Nemes' Son of Saul
being the latter. I can't say the terrible things people do to each other
that is happening just to the side, away from a viewer's gaze isnt as
effective as say what Klimov depicts in Come and See, the mass murder in a
small Belorussian town in 1943 where men women and children are burned
alive in a barn by the SS and proxies while soldiers drink, laugh rape and
play music.
Son of Saul was able to depict one aspect of the Holocaust that I'm sure
many people thought couldnt be done (or in Lanzmann's terms shouldnt be
done, any such direct depiction being an insult (my words) to the victims.
hence his great film, Shoah). Son of Saul is able to do that without
graphic depictions of mass violence. it doesnt make what your watching any
less challenging or horrific. Lanzmann love the film, by the way

rich

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am quite keen to see this.
>
> I am yet to actually walk out of a film, but the possibility is there I
> guess. I have fallen asleep a couple of times.
>
> Thanks for the article. Can people not close their eyes? Cover their ears.
> Is the walking out because 'mass action'? Boredom I do understand; you
> don't get time back.
>
> Jb
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 11:02 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The theater seats 522, but it was not filled to capacity (no word on
> > actual attendance). But if, let's say, ten percent of the audience
> > walked out, and they did so mostly in a bunch, all roughly at the same
> > time, that would definitely be seen as a significant walk-out, would
> > it not?
> >
> > By the way, leaving because you can't hack it isn't necessarily a
> > condemnation of the film (or play) being performed. Sometimes, you
> > just reach your limits, you know?
> >
> > yer old pal Jerky
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 4:59 PM bulb <bulb at vheissu.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > From the URL you posted (for which thank you):
> > >
> > > "TIFF programmer Dorota Lech introduced Vaclav Marhoul's film as a
> > "plunge
> > > into the darkest corners of the human soul," before around 40 people
> left
> > > the 522-seat theater."
> > >
> > > A "mass walk out"? 40 out of 522 is less than 8 percent...
> > >
> > > This Kosinski novel is brilliant (have not seen the movie).
> > >
> > > Michel.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pynchon-l <pynchon-l-bounces at waste.org> On Behalf Of Mark Kohut
> > > Sent: zaterdag 14 september 2019 20:51
> > > To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > > Subject: Not Pynchon but Kosinski (probably)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/painted-bird-holocaust-drama-prompts-
> > >
> >
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