Not Pynchon but Kosinski (probably)

[Arthur Fuller]

Horror abounds. This is a matter of fact. Nobody survives this, no matter
what nation of your birth. I hail from Canada, ostensibly a civilised
nation, but look into our past  We have done horrible things to millions of
people.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:44 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ive always wondered about the full transparent horror witnessed vs that
> horror implied. The Painted Bird and other such films like Klimov's Come
> and See being examples of the former, the (more recent) Nemes' Son of Saul
> being the latter. I can't say the terrible things people do to each other
> that is happening just to the side, away from a viewer's gaze isnt as
> effective as say what Klimov depicts in Come and See, the mass murder in a
> small Belorussian town in 1943 where men women and children are burned
> alive in a barn by the SS and proxies while soldiers drink, laugh rape and
> play music.
> Son of Saul was able to depict one aspect of the Holocaust that I'm sure
> many people thought couldnt be done (or in Lanzmann's terms shouldnt be
> done, any such direct depiction being an insult (my words) to the victims.
> hence his great film, Shoah). Son of Saul is able to do that without
> graphic depictions of mass violence. it doesnt make what your watching any
> less challenging or horrific. Lanzmann love the film, by the way
>
> rich
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I am quite keen to see this.
> >
> > I am yet to actually walk out of a film, but the possibility is there I
> > guess. I have fallen asleep a couple of times.
> >
> > Thanks for the article. Can people not close their eyes? Cover their
> ears.
> > Is the walking out because 'mass action'? Boredom I do understand; you
> > don't get time back.
> >
> > Jb
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 11:02 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The theater seats 522, but it was not filled to capacity (no word on
> > > actual attendance). But if, let's say, ten percent of the audience
> > > walked out, and they did so mostly in a bunch, all roughly at the same
> > > time, that would definitely be seen as a significant walk-out, would
> > > it not?
> > >
> > > By the way, leaving because you can't hack it isn't necessarily a
> > > condemnation of the film (or play) being performed. Sometimes, you
> > > just reach your limits, you know?
> > >
> > > yer old pal Jerky
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 4:59 PM bulb <bulb at vheissu.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From the URL you posted (for which thank you):
> > > >
> > > > "TIFF programmer Dorota Lech introduced Vaclav Marhoul's film as a
> > > "plunge
> > > > into the darkest corners of the human soul," before around 40 people
> > left
> > > > the 522-seat theater."
> > > >
> > > > A "mass walk out"? 40 out of 522 is less than 8 percent...
> > > >
> > > > This Kosinski novel is brilliant (have not seen the movie).
> > > >
> > > > Michel.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Pynchon-l <pynchon-l-bounces at waste.org> On Behalf Of Mark
> Kohut
> > > > Sent: zaterdag 14 september 2019 20:51
> > > > To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > > > Subject: Not Pynchon but Kosinski (probably)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/painted-bird-holocaust-drama-prompts-
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Arthur