Lisstpvr (378) brief unannotated list of topics so far

[Mark Kohut]

Mr. Smallwood,

I like your enthusiasm and your originality. I think it overtakes me with
my pedestrianism. I Know we've all
read Vineland at least once, but I do not think I could answer decently
into your list of questions until I had read it again
anew. Which I can't understand as a way for another group read.

All I can see is From the Beginning again. Bringing what we think we know
or believe into new eyes focusing on every sentence
like we are reading in Braille. (in War & Peace, Tolstoy describes Prince
Andrew as starting to read something "only with his eyes"
until something grips him...and he slows and enters. )

My unimaginatveness can only see you doing what we do here outside of a
group read. That is riffing on whatever hits us in and because
of one of P's books. A laudable thing for the Plist.

So, let me ask again, I count you and two others, and Jerky as a
non-hosting contributor to something like a group read, is that correct?

As I have said before, I am not going to host one all
alone....again.......where no one responds.

Mark

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:33 AM Raphael Saltwood <PlainMrBotanyB at outlook.com>
wrote:

>
> 1) does the defenestration strike a jarring note? Defend or what would you
> put there?
> 2) Are you nostalgic for the 60s? What, if anything, in VL conjures them
> for you?
> 3) Brief census of vehicles and pick one to comment on
> 4) do you like VL, why or why not?
> 5) truly brief recap of 3 important conversations -
>    a) Hector with Zoyd at bowling alley
>     b) BV with Zoyd right before his “extrajudicial” gut punch
>     c) Hector with Frenesi near the end
> - and equally brief opinion on meaning
> 6) Zoyd pre-Frenesi and the tule fog
> 7) Hector and Zoyd at the defenestration
> 8) Che
> 9) Justin
> 10) Flash
> 11) list of Zoyd's jobs & gigs
> 12) list of time hops during any 50 pages
> 13) list of Zoyd's friends
> 14) Hector's conversation with Frenesi
> 15) DL jailbreaking Frenesi
> 16) BV and Vato, towards the end
> 17) Ortho Bob
> 18) DLs mom
> 19) “Y-you mean life *isn't* Vegas?" who, context, implications
> 20) things friends said about Vineland when you suggested or loaned or
> gave them a copy (with commentary if at all possible)
> 21) mention an article on Vineland and at least one point made in it (with
> commentary optional but appreciated) For a truly small topic mention *only*
> one point in it but comment to repletion
> 22) explicate “Girlie with a gun”
>
> And the too-big topics
>
>
> 1) musical, Tubal and movie references
>
> 2) labor, protest, PR3 references
>
> 3)  Vietnam references (RC, Vato & Blood, etc)
>
> 4) Frenesi and DL
>
> 5) Frenesi and BV
>
> 6) Frenesi and Zoyd
>
> 7) Prairie qua Prairie & Prairie vis a vis Frenesi, I24, Sister Rochelle,
>
> 8) Zoyd's friendly interactions, brief annotated census
>
> 9) DL and Takeshi
>
> 10) Is there a moral, and if so, what is it? Ethical takeaways?
>
> 11) is the D&G fakebook more than a throwaway reference? Are there
> philosophical /
> theoretical / religious underpinnings & if so, what, how and why? Lots of
> overlap with previous topic, or is there a non-philosophical ethics?
>
>
>
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