LISS/STEPVR 10th roundup 27/24 4/21/2020

[peterthooper at juno.com]

Boilerplate: this is a roundup. It needn't be "the" roundup - LISS/STEPVR would profit from multiple roundups. Let a thousand plateaus bloom, each with a roundup. Or not. IJS, not greedy with the roundup! 


From: ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com>
To: Pynchon-l <Pynchon-l at waste.org>

Increasingly, the idea of jazz is being put to work as a cultural
asset, a powerful tool for attracting investment. 

https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520279384/the-jazz-bubble

—————build a nightclub, Mr Goldman,
With your sacks of money that you spend so well;
Buy a venue, full with artists,
Anything you put within six blocks will sell!

Build a goldstone, Mr Jazzbo;
>From your brownstone you can hear them,
Hum the head!
Sing a solo,
Comp the chorus,
Who th’ everlovin’ heck said jazz is dead?

Mr Goldman you’re the bees knees!
Boola boola, and-a 23 skidoo!
Fund the trombones, and the saxes,
Mr Goldman we love you!

(with apologies to "Gypsy")
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plainmrbotanyb:
knowing his readers, in all likelihood, and he himself, no matter how deeply involved they get in _Vineland_, will return to their own TVs like Zoyd to his marijuana or, perhaps, even like Frenesi to Vond

- that was maybe a little overstated


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From: Mark Kohut 
Yeah, you're right....a confession of my failure which I was wondering
whether applied to many.

I'll jump in and get a foothold again.

----------I think if his topics and/or treatments were good, you'd be asking for more, not less. It's not you...  




>From the past ---------
From: David Morris  
To: "'pynchon-l@[omitted]'"  
Subject: VLVL, where are you? 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:23:25 -0700 


Out of curiosity (and some disappointment) I decided to tally all posts to 
pynchon-l@[omitted]  since the beginning (Sat. Sept.19) of  VLVL(1) into 
"VLVL" or "OTHER" (I receive the digest, so it was a relatively easy task). 
 I made a point to include in the "VLVL" column all posts relating to 
Vineland, including those that didn't use the VLVL(#) subject heading 
protocol.  The following are the results:

Total VLVL posts = 314
Total OTHER posts = 502

Last date VLVL posts exceeded Other posts:  Fri, Sept. 25 (the first week 
of VLVL)

Total VLVL post for first week of VLVL = 211
Total OTHER posts for first week of VLVL = 97

Total VLVL posts after first week of VLVL = 103
Total OTHER posts after first week of VLVL = 405

Conclusion?  It seems to me that VLVL(1) ran out of gas after the first 
week.  Also, keep in mind that WAY over half of the OTHER post were 
entirely, IMHO, unrelated to Pynchon's writings, unless all those 
"influences" of every aspect of history, culture, humor, current events, 
etc. qualify as such.  Granted, the banter (but not the tiresome flaming 
and endless badgering) is entertaining.  Granted, VLVL(1) ran overtime by a 
week.  But, seems to me, Vineland, so far, aint holding our collective 
attention too well.

Class? Any comments?


----------nice research!