A New Perspective

[David Morris]

Those other Japanese cities were vaporized instantly.  That’s a big
difference.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:01 PM Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> This article makes a pretty convincing argument
>
> “In the three weeks prior to Hiroshima, 26 cities were attacked by the
> U.S. Army Air Force. Of these, eight — or almost a third — were as
> completely or more completely destroyed than Hiroshima (in terms of the
> percentage of the city destroyed). The fact that Japan had 68 cities
> destroyed in the summer of 1945 poses a serious challenge for people who
> want to make the bombing of Hiroshima the cause of Japan’s surrender. The
> question is: If they surrendered because a city was destroyed, why didn’t
> they surrender when those other 66 cities were destroyed?”
>
> “The Japanese were in a relatively difficult strategic situation. They
> were nearing the end of a war they were losing. Conditions were bad. The
> Army, however, was still strong and well-supplied. Nearly 4 million men
> were under arms and 1.2 million of those were guarding Japan’s home
> islands.”
>
> https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/
>
> Up until quite recently, and even now human intelligence, or HUMINT, is a
> critical component for a drone strike, the Strategic Bombing campaign,
> dreamed of by Allied Bomber Command was something of a myth, or clever code
> for indiscriminate killing of civilians...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Do you have any evidence for tha? I would think that 130,000 people
> killed
> > in an instant would have demonstrated the futility of further conflict,
> but
> > then about a week later came Nagasaki. what are armies and navies to do
> > versus nukes?
> > To look at it another way, within a decade Japan displaced many US
> > companies such as Morotorla, RCA Victor and others as the premier
> suppliers
> > of stereos, TVs and so on. After that came the Chinese wave, but the
> bottom
> > line is that the USA lost its grip because the corporations thought it
> more
> > profitable to send the jobs to Asia than to keep them at home. This
> applies
> > also to the garment industry (Guess, Tommy Hilfiger and numerous others);
> > it's not just a high-tech off-load. It goes all the way down to basic
> > foodstuffs
> >
> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:15 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Japan only surrendered because the Emperor stepped forward. I think
> much of
> >> the Japanese general staff wanted to fight on
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:10 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But Russia didn’t have the bomb, so their planned invasion (into China,
> >>> notJapan) was weak tea.  Did Japan prefer US occupation to Russian
> >>> occupation?  Probably.
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:52 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Yes. Good question.
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:49 PM Jonathon Hunt <jhuntstl at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Also, what really caused the US to drop the atomic bombs: Japan's
> >>> refusal
> >>>>> to surrender or Russia's planned invasion of Japan?
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, 10:26 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/why-did-world-war-ii-end-2/
> >>>>>> August 6: Hiroshima bomb dropped.
> >>>>>> August 8: Soviet Union declares war on Japan and invades Manchuria.
> >>>>>> August 9: Nagasaki bomb dropped.
> >>>>>> August 10: Emperor Hirohito breaks the cabinet deadlock and decides
> >>> that
> >>>>>> Japan must surrender.
> >>>>>> So what really caused the Japanese to finally give up? Was it
> >>> America’s
> >>>>>> atomic bombs, or was it the Soviet Union’s entrance into the Pacific
> >>>>> war?
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