An unexpected friendship? Was to me. And most/all? of the Plisters, I suggest

[Charles Albert]

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On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 9:13 AM Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com> wrote:

> ... a great cunnilingus tutorial,
>
> Remember another one by Brodkey, even more so.
>
> Am Do., 23. Jan. 2020 um 14:08 Uhr schrieb Charles Albert <
> cfalbert at gmail.com>:
>
>> The Day of The Jackal was excellent pulp...
>>
>> Included a great cunnilingus tutorial, which one impressionable lad took
>> to
>> heart many decades ago.
>>
>> Thanks Fred....wherever you are.
>>
>>
>> love,
>>
>> cfa
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:56 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > + ... "DEAR TOM GUINZBURG WHEREVER YOU ARE, I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
>> > KNOW I'M NUMBER EIGHT AND MY FRIEND FREDDIE IS NUMBER TWO."/ Pynchon was
>> > referring to the fact that Frederick Forsyth's second thriller, THE
>> > ODESSA FILE, was No. 2 on the NEW YORK TIMES bestseller list and
>> > GRAVITY'S RAINBOW was No. 8 ... +
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://books.google.de/books?id=btgXCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT127&lpg=PT127&dq=frederick+forsyth+pynchon&source=bl&ots=XzztUaCr-x&sig=ACfU3U2w-d_zdetjCnDUBZyOPsvwhe1IvA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiB9fPp0ZTnAhVS4aQKHZaLBZQQ6AEwAnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=frederick%20forsyth%20pynchon&f=fals
>> > <
>> >
>> https://books.google.de/books?id=btgXCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT127&lpg=PT127&dq=frederick+forsyth+pynchon&source=bl&ots=XzztUaCr-x&sig=ACfU3U2w-d_zdetjCnDUBZyOPsvwhe1IvA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiB9fPp0ZTnAhVS4aQKHZaLBZQQ6AEwAnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=frederick%20forsyth%20pynchon&f=false
>> > >
>> > e
>> >
>> > One might infer that the friendship began around the time of Freddie's
>> > first book, a runaway bestseller,* The Day of the Jackal.* 1971 His
>> > publisher was
>> >  Viking. Pynchon's publisher..
>> >
>> > *“The Day of the Jackal makes such comparable books such as The
>> Manchurian
>> > Candidate and The Spy Who Came in from the Cold seem like Hardy Boy
>> > mysteries.”—The New York Times    ( memory or recreated one: made me
>> want
>> > to read it---but I didn't) *
>> >
>> > Such a quote *would *appeal to TRP. We know he has read Le Carre and
>> liked
>> > him without reservations of 'genre'. We also seem to know that he often,
>> > through his agent, Ms Donadio and other industry insiders, got new
>> books to
>> > read before they were published*. Catch--22* seems almost
>> circumstantially
>> > provable as just one he read before publication.
>> >
>> > Then there is the forgotten Richard Condon. of *The Manchurian
>> Candidate.
>> > *Once
>> > compared to "satirists" like, O, Thomas Pynchon and some other black
>> > humorists. (Latterly, discredited for some plagiarism, including,
>> someone
>> > showed, passages of MC 'taken' from Graves,* I, Claudius.! *[A
>> post-modern
>> > mixer before the mix times? ] Famous for his* LISTS!*! Pynchon list
>> fans.
>> > Famous for extended metaphors ---"complex sentences that go bang at the
>> > end"...and for
>> > the fiction of information. Condon to Pynchon, like those
>> > lost English writers who did the inferior Hamlets and King Lears before
>> > Shakey?
>> > Wikipedia: "The fiction of information"[edit
>> > <
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Condon&action=edit&section=4
>> > >
>> > ]
>> >
>> > Condon's works are difficult to categorize precisely: A 1971 *Time
>> magazine
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_magazine>* review declared that,
>> > "Condon was never a satirist: he was a riot in a satire factory. He
>> raged
>> > at Western civilization and every last one of its works. He decorticated
>> > the Third Reich, cheese fanciers, gossip columnists and the Hollywood
>> star
>> > system with equal and total frenzy." [6]
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Condon#cite_note-6> The
>> headline of
>> > his obituary in *The New York Times* called him a "political
>> novelist",[7]
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Condon#cite_note-NYT-7> but
>> went on
>> > to say that, "Novelist is too limited a word to encompass the world of
>> Mr.
>> > Condon. He was also a visionary, a darkly comic conjurer, a student of
>> > American mythology and a master of conspiracy theories, as vividly
>> > demonstrated in 'The Manchurian Candidate.'"[7]
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Condon#cite_note-NYT-7> Although
>> > his
>> > books combined many different elements, including occasional outright
>> > fantasy and science fiction, they were, above all, written to entertain
>> the
>> > general public. He had, however, a genuine disdain, outrage, and even
>> > hatred for many of the mainstream political corruptions that he found so
>> > prevalent in American life. In a 1977 quotation, he said that:[8]
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Condon#cite_note-8>
>> >
>> > "...people are being manipulated, exploited, murdered by their servants,
>> > who have convinced these savage, simple-minded populations that they are
>> > their masters, and that it hurts the head, if one thinks. People accept
>> > servants as masters. My novels are merely entertaining persuasions to
>> get
>> > the people to think in other categories."
>> >
>> > With his long lists of absurd trivia and "mania for absolute details",
>> > Condon was, along with Ian Fleming
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fleming>, one of the early
>> exemplars of
>> > those called by Pete Hamill <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hamill>
>> in
>> > a *New York Times* review, "the practitioners of what might be called
>> the
>> > New Novelism... Condon applies a dense web of facts to fiction.... There
>> > might really be two kinds of fiction: the fiction of sensibility and the
>> > fiction of information... As a practitioner of the fiction of
>> information,
>> > no one else comes close to him."[9]
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Condon#cite_note-9>
>> > Quirks and characteristics[edit
>> > <
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Condon&action=edit&section=5
>> > >
>> > ]
>> >
>> > Condon attacked his targets wholeheartedly but with a uniquely original
>> > style and wit that made almost any paragraph from one of his books
>> > instantly recognizable. Reviewing one of his works in the *International
>> > Herald Tribune*, playwright George Axelrod
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Axelrod> (*The Seven Year Itch
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Year_Itch_(play)>*, *Will
>> Success
>> > Spoil Rock Hunter
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Success_Spoil_Rock_Hunter>*), who
>> had
>> > collaborated with Condon on the screenplay for the film adaptation of
>> *The
>> > Manchurian Candidate*, wrote:
>> >
>> > "The arrival of a new novel by Richard Condon is like an invitation to a
>> > party.... the sheer gusto of the prose, the madness of his similes, the
>> > lunacy of his metaphors, his infectious, almost child-like joy in
>> composing
>> > complex sentences that go bang at the end in the manner of exploding
>> cigars
>> > is both exhilarating and as exhausting as any good party ought to be."
>> > --
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>> >
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