BE-related: WTC 7

[Kai Frederik Lorentzen]

Am 26.05.20 um 19:48 schrieb David Morris:

> I've said it before:  Controlled demolition (implosion) requires 
> explosives at columns that can't be hidden in an occupied building, 
> and they can't be installed overnight.  That conspiracy is just BS.
>

Jeffrey Scott Shapiro:

+ ... Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and 
Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property 
developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his 
insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled 
demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable 
and expected to fall.

A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the 
building’s imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law 
enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of 
this possible option ... +

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/shame-on-jesse-ventura

"The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the 
collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 ... "

https://files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdf


Betreff: 	Re: "Strange shift to be working," it seems to Maxine ...
Datum: 	Tue, 11 Sep 2018 06:55:15 +0000
Von: 	Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
An: 	pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>, ish mailian 
<ishmailian at gmail.com>, jody2.718 <jody2.718 at protonmail.com>



Terrible Tuesday revisited --

"Als ein Kollege vor wenigen Jahren den gefeierten amerikanischen 
Enthüllungsjournalisten Seymour Hersh unter vier Augen fragte, was der 
über 9/11 denke, bekam er zur Antwort, dass natürlich sehr viele Fragen 
offen seien und die offizielle Erklärung kaum stimmen könne. Auf die 
Nachfrage, warum er denn nichts dazu schreiben würde, antwortete Hersh 
nur: 'Die Sache ist zu groß.'"

(Paul Schreyer: Faktencheck 9/11, pp. 83-84)

+ ... Regardless of who had foreknowledge or what the imminent danger 
was, over the next few weeks and months there were heroic efforts made 
to rescue survivors. But those efforts were hampered by Giuliani’s drive 
to clean up the site rapidly. The commonly held story is that the 
government wanted to re-open Wall Street, and for that reason didn’t 
care about the health of New Yorkers and first responders or about 
facilitating the most careful rescue operations. However, the facts also 
align with the hypothesis that authorities were in a hurry to remove 
evidence that pointed to the use of explosives ... During the five-month 
cleanup effort, there were unprecedented measures taken to control 
access to the site. The site was restricted, and photographs were 
banned, by order of Rudy Giuliani. Anthony Mann of E.J. Electric, one of 
the primary security companies for the WTC towers, said that, “Security 
is unbelievable. It’s really on a need-to-be-down-there basis.” ... The 
City hired five construction companies to handle the cleanup and the 
site was divided up among them. The five companies were AMEC 
Construction Management, Bovis Lend Lease, Turner Construction, Tully 
Construction and Tishman Construction./ Other sub-contractors were hired 
to complete the actual debris removal. Most of these companies were 
suspected of being associated with organized crime. Some were reportedly 
linked to the Colombo crime family, including Civetta Cousins, and 
Yonkers Contracting. Others were associated with the Luchese crime 
family./ The cleanup operations were ultimately consolidated under the 
control of two of the primary contractors: AMEC Construction Management 
and Bovis Lend Lease. At the time of the 9/11 attacks, the CEO of AMEC 
Construction was Peter Janson, a long-time business associate of Donald 
Rumsfeld. Under Janson’s leadership, AMEC had just completed a $258 
million refurbishment of Wedge 1 of the Pentagon, exactly where AA 
Flight 77 impacted the building./ The debris removed from Ground Zero 
was either hauled away on trucks or shipped away on barges. Despite the 
effort to rapidly dispose of the steel and sell it a bargain price, the 
WTC debris was considered highly sensitive. At first the trucks were 
tracked using a paper-based system, and later GPS devices were fixed to 
each truck with “antennas to monitor location, cellular wireless 
antennas to communicate, and multiple I/Os to track vehicle signals from 
engine systems.” Apparently it was important for officials to know not 
only where the trucks were at any given time, but also the status of the 
engine. As for the barges, the process was setup “in record time,” in 
order to “transport debris to the city’s Fresh Kills landfill and to 
recycling sites, all scrutinized by the Corps of Engineers.”/ As the 
debris was received at Fresh Kills landfill, it was sorted carefully. 
This sorting process was supervised by federal agents, and described in 
this way: “Teams of officers and agents watch as the rubble is sifted 
down to a fine ashy silt that they then rake through by hand.” More than 
a year later, FBI agents reported the theft of some of this debris at 
the Fresh Kills site. It was discovered that Evidence Recovery Teams 
(ERTs) involved in the sorting process stole pieces of debris, and kept 
or disposed of them. This removal of debris was condoned and encouraged 
by the FBI agents in charge./ Pat D’Amuro, later an employee of Giuliani 
Partners, was involved in the theft of WTC debris from the Fresh Kills 
site. D’Amuro had specifically requested that certain kinds of items be 
kept for his retrieval, ostensibly so that he could give them away as 
mementos to various dignitaries./ D’Amuro had been the counterterrorism 
chief in the FBI’s New York City office since 1997 and was put in charge 
of the PENTTBOM investigation just after the 9/11 attacks. PENTTBOM 
stood for Pentagon/Twin Towers Bombing and was notable for the rapidity 
in which the case was solved. U.S. authorities claimed to have had no 
knowledge of or ability to stop the 9/11 attacks yet the FBI was able to 
identify all nineteen alleged hijackers within 72 hours ... +

http://911truth.org/rudy-giuliani-closer-look-911-legend/
https://www.silive.com/september-11/index.ssf/2011/09/at_the_landfill_a_heartbreakin.html

+ ... It [the landfill] was first re-opened on Sept. 12, 2001, the day 
after the terrorist attack — and six months after Staten Islanders 
thought it was shuttered for good ... +

In the quoted passage (pp. 168-169) Pynchon suggests that the 
preparations for the re-opening of the landfill had taken place BEFORE 
the towers collapsed ...

Am 01.09.2018 um 15:28 schrieb Kai Frederik Lorentzen:

"Island of Meadows" is what's written on the page but Isle of Meadows 
seems to be meant.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

Am 01.09.2018 um 14:51 schrieb ish mailian:

Did P write **Island of Meadows** ? The Isle of Meadows in NYC is
conflated here with the **Island of Meadows** a bombing island?

Or a typo?

Isle of Meadows is a 100-acre (0.40 km2) uninhabited island in the New
York City borough of Staten Island in the United States. It is located
along the western side of Staten Island, where Fresh Kills empties
into the Arthur Kill. The island is owned by the city of New York. In
the 1990s, the island nearly became part of the Fresh Kills
Landfill.[citation needed] It is now a nature preserve providing
important meadow and salt marsh nesting habitat for herons, ibises,
and egrets, and is not accessible to the public.[1]

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 8:46 AM ish mailian wrote:

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Am 02.09.2018 um 14:19 schrieb jody2.718:

+ ... "...at the intersection of Fresh and Arthur Kills, toxicity 
central, the dark focus of Big Apple waste disposal, everything the city 
has rejected so it can keep pretending to be itself... " [BE, p. 166] ... +

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:36 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen wrote

... The industrial racket from back in the marshland behind the giant 
cliffs of ruin has grown continuous. Now and then workers, in 
long-standing Sanitation Department tradition, have lengthy exhilarated 
screaming exchanges. "Strange shift to be working," it seems to Maxine.
"Yeah. Nice overtime for somebody. Almost like they're up to something 
they don't want anybody to know about."
"When did anybody ever want to know?" March lapsing for a moment into 
the bag-lady character in her commencement speech at Kugelblitz, the one 
person dedicated to salvaging everything the city wants to deny. "Either 
they're playing catch-up or they're getting it ready to open for dump 
business again."
A presidential visit? Somebody's making a movie? Who knows.
Early seagulls show up from somewhere, begin inspecting the menu. The 
sky takes on a brushed-aluminum underglow. A night heron with breakfast 
in its beak ascends from its long watch at the edge of the Island of 
Meadows ...

Bleeding Edge, pp. 168-169

> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:17 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com 
> <mailto:richard.romeo at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     'yeah, well, that's just like their opinion, man'
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>     On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:28 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>     <lorentzen at hotmail.de <mailto:lorentzen at hotmail.de>>
>     wrote:
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>     https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/news/others/2020/05/world-trade-center-7-building-did-not-collapse-due-to-fire-report
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