This! This! Pynchon's self-organizing [anarchy] vision happening all over. One I'm part of in my little town.

[David Morris]

I think has Pynchon proposed anarchy as an alternative to government, not
as private charity by nice people.   But he knows it is only viable in
small communities on a very short-term basis.  It is GR's Zone, which he
explicitly portrays as doomed to failure. I think his absurd portrayal of
anarchist golf in ATD (no rules) shows... something.  Was he making fun of
his own naivety?  I would like to think so.

David Morris

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:06 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> We are not talking about 'self-organizing' a government......
>
> We are talking about spontaneous eddies of help, for gawd's sake.
> Smart people, participatory decision-making...FOLLOWING ALL THE GODDAM
> LAWS.
>
> Read about what a few of Camus' characters, esp Dr. Rieux do in a plague
> and you will have to revise that sentence.
> yet, there are plenty of selfish sabotagers in that novel; there are
> plenty of offside oddballs; there is plenty, plenty of denial
> and complacency....
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:55 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Self-organizing without leaders" is a recipe for disaster in a plague.
>> That's exactly what the internet is.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:49 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry....we've been here on this concept before......Pynchon's older
>>> definitional use and
>>> meaning is ........."self-organizing, without leaders, without hierarchy,
>>> without bureaucracy, mutual agreement
>>> after quick back and forths and same with actions"......to help people
>>> out
>>> spontaneously, immediately, etc.
>>> Occupy was like this for its purposes....
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:43 PM Richard Romeo <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Anarchy is what we definitely do not need now. Yowza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Mar 17, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Alyssa Harad
>>> > > @alyssaharad
>>> > > <https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssaharad>
>>> > > ·
>>> > > 7m <
>>> https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssaharad/status/1239983938698960897>
>>> > > Watching mutual aid organizations pop up everywhere like beautiful,
>>> > > beautiful mushrooms in the shadow of our murderous systems.
>>> Revolution as
>>> > > care.
>>> > >
>>> > > Hear* Mutual Aid*, think Kropotkin.
>>> > > --
>>> > > Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>>> >
>>> --
>>> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>>>
>>