This! This! Pynchon's self-organizing [anarchy] vision happening all over. One I'm part of in my little town.

[Mark Kohut]

your sentence has an extra word or word out of place....yes, small
"self-organizing but decision-making groups that do things.'





On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:21 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think has Pynchon proposed anarchy as an alternative to government, not
> as private charity by nice people.   But he knows it is only viable in
> small communities on a very short-term basis.  It is GR's Zone, which he
> explicitly portrays as doomed to failure. I think his absurd portrayal of
> anarchist golf in ATD (no rules) shows... something.  Was he making fun of
> his own naivety?  I would like to think so.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:06 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We are not talking about 'self-organizing' a government......
>>
>> We are talking about spontaneous eddies of help, for gawd's sake.
>> Smart people, participatory decision-making...FOLLOWING ALL THE GODDAM
>> LAWS.
>>
>> Read about what a few of Camus' characters, esp Dr. Rieux do in a plague
>> and you will have to revise that sentence.
>> yet, there are plenty of selfish sabotagers in that novel; there are
>> plenty of offside oddballs; there is plenty, plenty of denial
>> and complacency....
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:55 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Self-organizing without leaders" is a recipe for disaster in a plague.
>>> That's exactly what the internet is.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:49 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sorry....we've been here on this concept before......Pynchon's older
>>>> definitional use and
>>>> meaning is ........."self-organizing, without leaders, without
>>>> hierarchy,
>>>> without bureaucracy, mutual agreement
>>>> after quick back and forths and same with actions"......to help people
>>>> out
>>>> spontaneously, immediately, etc.
>>>> Occupy was like this for its purposes....
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:43 PM Richard Romeo <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Anarchy is what we definitely do not need now. Yowza
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Mar 17, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Alyssa Harad
>>>> > > @alyssaharad
>>>> > > <https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssaharad>
>>>> > > ·
>>>> > > 7m <
>>>> https://mobile.twitter.com/alyssaharad/status/1239983938698960897>
>>>> > > Watching mutual aid organizations pop up everywhere like beautiful,
>>>> > > beautiful mushrooms in the shadow of our murderous systems.
>>>> Revolution as
>>>> > > care.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hear* Mutual Aid*, think Kropotkin.
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>>>