Not P, Warhol

[Mark Kohut]

Here's your dinner party Warhol myth-debunking if you want it.

His Campbell's' soup cans, esp Tomato, the leader or the first not sure
yet,  were not silkscreened with nostalgic memories of
his mother serving him Campbell's soup. She made soup from scratch, they
were very frugal, and
for her, tomato soup was made, when there were no tomatoes,  using
Heinz--Pittsburgh company--ketchup
and the right other ingredients.

Campbell's soup promotion started in 49-50 and was extensive in the 50s, In
Life Mag most noticeably, when young Andy had just gotten to NYC.
Gopnik says what struck Andy was how bad this work was compared to the work
he and others had done in Pittsburgh's good art school. Carnegie Institute
of Technology, now Carnegie--Mellon.

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> https://www.selfmadehero.com/news/inside-typex-s-andy-the-life-and-times-of-andy-warhol
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>
> I bought this massive graphic novel about Andy a while ago (at the last
> TCAF, or Toronto Comic Arts Festival), but I haven't read it yet.
>
> Jerky
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:08 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "in a little bio published in December 1960, the best Warhol could claim
>> for himself as an artist, {although he had
>> been exhibiting in galleries for years], was that he was doing a bookplate
>> for Audrey Hepburn's nursery."--Gopnik
>>
>> His eureka moment, writes Gopnik, was when he realized the "low-art' of
>> magazine illustration and dressing windows,
>> that popular, commercial art, could glide effortlessly with the right
>> framing and genius choices into that new Pop Art movement
>> using and illuminating the anything of the times. From low puns to High
>> Art.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 6:55 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Speaking of Warhol, thanks David, whose birth family and mine were
>> > parishioners of the same Church in Pittsburgh. (If you go to the Andy
>> Warhol
>> > Museum and look at Andy's grave webcam, where flowers and soup cans are
>> > placed on his stone and plot, average size,
>> > you will see in the upper left a gravestone that reads KOHUT. Yeahp, you
>> > can visit me there with my parents for all eternity soon enough
>> > after paying homage to Andy.)
>> >
>> > Gopnik's Warhol will be, after reading only a little, one of the great
>> > biographies. Because it is so wonderfully detailed, so wonderfully
>> > knowledgeable--he tackles all of the superficial--but many true since
>> Andy
>> > is all human surface---ways of "explaining' Andy's work thru his life.
>> >
>> > I'll give two. He has found out that when his dad bought a new house
>> when
>> > he was still a kid from a relative he paid cash--about 3 Grand if i
>> > remember, which took years
>> > of frugal non-drinking hard work, and which included Andy's mother
>> selling
>> > vegetables and homemade things--but the the sale was recorded as for
>> $1..
>> > Tax avoidance which Andy later also worked hard at......(I actually saw
>> an
>> > example of this when I went one Friday evening to the Warhol Museum
>> > for a Reveal, first time ever, opening of one of Andy's time
>> > capsules...Andy used to periodically sweep everything in his studio into
>> > big boxes and
>> > date and seal and store them......This evening I saw IRS letters,
>> > receipts, maybe even a marked-up receipt, requests for others to send
>> him
>> > letters re his expenses, etc. )
>> >
>> > And, Andy, whom I knew since his later art school years was seen as the
>> > one with the most natural draughtsman's talent any had ever seen, the
>> one
>> > who entered art
>> > school with little to really learn and all his teachers saw it, was "the
>> > one we asked to help draw something when we hung stuff in the classroom"
>> > said HIS SECOND GRADE TEACHER!, whom Gopnik found and interviewed.
>> >
>> > Perfect circles by hand at will from the youngest age. As if hand-eye
>> > coordination was a tautology,  Sometime look up his pen and ink
>> drawings of
>> > street life on the South Side of Pittsburgh, famers selling vegetables
>> via
>> > trucks, etc.
>> >
>> > And there's more.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 8:58 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Years ago I got about halfway thru The Recognitions.  It lost me in its
>> >> depiction of its Pynchon-like whole sick crew. As such, I never dove
>> deep
>> >> into its questions about original Vs copied artwork.  Am I wrong to
>> suspect
>> >> Warhol was his target?
>> >>
>> >> David Morris
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:32 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> https://twitter.com/sarahw/status/1256726554748628992?s=20
>> >>> --
>> >>> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>> >>>
>> >>
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