not P. Gaddis
Arthur Fuller
fuller.artful at gmail.com
Sun May 24 14:38:46 UTC 2020
I think I've read everything Gaddis published. He's one of my very
favourite novelists. I still laugh when I think of *A Frolic of His Own*,
and *JR.*
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:02 AM Heikki R <
situations.journeys.comedy at gmail.com> wrote:
> For the protagonist Wyatt Gwyon, the art of late-medieval Flemish Masters
> (Bouts, the van Eycks, van der Goes, Memling, van der Weyden) embodies
> integrity, devotion and community that have been lost in modernity. At one
> point he says: "I'm a master painter in the Guild, in Flanders, do you
> see?" But Wyatt will change his mind in the course of the novel...
>
>
> Heikki
>
> su 3. toukok. 2020 klo 13.19 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> kirjoitti:
>
> > Yeah. Your timing is off. The Recognitions was published in 1955, written
> > over a decently long say-it-all-in-one-great book time for Gaddis
> >
> > Andy was still doing Tiffany windows in 1961, still a 'commercial'
> > artist making it in NYC. 60-61 were good years, 60 better. He bought a
> > house
> > uptown.
> >
> > The art that was Gaddis' target was Abstract Expressionism, the emphasis
> on
> > abstract. An art movement that ignored
> > human recognition for the sake of art for art's sake. Color, form,
> patterns
> > only, one might say, he might have said, and I'm sure a deeper Gaddis
> > reader will correct me if that isn't accurate enough.
> >
> > But more it is about the art critics who made that movement credible and
> > monetarily valuable. And the whole lesser circle that thrived
> > off their words, not being able to recognize art themselves anyway. I
> > think.
> >
> > Another meaning to the word, as I remember the novel, is that in the way
> > back time, Roman times in Gaddis's case, I think, we knew
> > ourselves clearly but the modern age had led us to lose that recognition.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 8:58 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Years ago I got about halfway thru The Recognitions. It lost me in its
> > > depiction of its Pynchon-like whole sick crew. As such, I never dove
> deep
> > > into its questions about original Vs copied artwork. Am I wrong to
> > suspect
> > > Warhol was his target?
> > >
> > > David Morris
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:32 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> https://twitter.com/sarahw/status/1256726554748628992?s=20
> > >> --
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