Great Thread on 5GW in Ukraine

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Sat Oct 10 21:07:58 UTC 2020


Don't apologize, Mark.  Has Mr Eckhart ever expressed an opinion re.
Putin's numerous poison victims?  Will he even acknowledge that Putin had
them poisoned?  How does that affect his Ukraine/Russia equation?  Russia
under Putin is ultra fascist now.

David Morris


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Crazy words, simply self-justifyingly crazy on Ukraine...."Most
> decisive event of the human species".....Gone, Thomas, you're are gone.
> I will never read another word on Ukraine at this site from you.
>
> Tell me again, Mr. Insightful Current Affairs Historian why Clinton was a
> worse candidate than Trump in 2016.
>
> Just so you know and as if it matters and I'm sure you feel reciprocally: I
> trust no words of yours about the real world--esp America and Ukraine,
> which I once researched because of you---
>  unless they are something outside Pynchon nicely illuminating Pynchon.
> Some Acquinas and much other stuff was and is interesting.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:43 PM Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Asshole or not, he is basically right about Ukraine. The decisive event,
> > which may yet turn out to be the decisive event in the history not only
> > of the 21st century but of the human species, was the massacre of both
> > Berkut (Ukrainian special police) and protesters on 20 February 2014,
> > which was committed not by Yanukovich's people but by paramilitary
> > (mostly Nazi/Banderite) forces from the opposition's ranks and
> > collaborators from abroad. It is uncontroversial but little known that
> > Berkut police were killed and wounded by opposition snipers in the early
> > morning hours of that day.
> >
> > How do I know this, as the NYT and the WP, rightfully celebrated for
> > their investigative reporting on WMD in Iraq, didn't mention any of it?
> >
> > Georgians have confessed to participating in the shooting on Italian and
> > Israeli TV; Canadian political scientist Ivan Katchanovski has published
> > and regularly updated a peer-reviewed scientific study on the topic
> > which has been presented at the Annual Meeting of the American Political
> > Science Association in 2015; the BBC has reported that one of their
> > correspondents was shot at from the Hotel Ukraina which was in the hand
> > of the opposition's paramilitary units. A German television crew even
> > entered and filmed a room in the Hotel Ukraina from which a paramilitary
> > unit shot at protesters -- a video that was scrubbed from Youtube in a
> > hurry, but Katchanovski has it.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0rR2Fh1zWI (Italian Television,
> > subtitles in English)
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR1NFI6TBH0 (Italian Television,
> > subtitles in English)
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJhJ6hks0Jg (BBC Newsnight)
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/ivan.katchanovski/videos/989716864391533/ (the
> > video that the ZDF does not want you to see)
> >
> >
> >
> https://gordonhahn.com/2016/03/09/the-real-snipers-massacre-ukraine-february-2014-updatedrevised-working-paper/
> > (a good summary).
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266855828_The_Snipers'_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266855828_The_Snipers'_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine
> > (Ivan Katchanovski's study)
> >
> > The most important and most depressing aspect of this is the role of the
> > Western establishment media. They were bad when Chomsky and Herman
> > published "Manufacturing Consent". Ever since the Maidan protests, with
> > regard to Russia, they are Der Stürmer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 08.10.2020 um 22:25 schrieb Mark Thibodeau:
> > > Why would you promote this asshole's Twitter account?
> > >
> > > By the way, he isn't half as clever as he seems to think he is.
> > >
> > > And also, he's an asshole.
> > >
> > > YOPJerky
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:30 PM Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Not overtly about Pynchon, but Pynchon is the writer to me who can
> best
> > >> describe a person’s brain undergoing intensive info-war...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> FOX News intern with three Phds (@realboyphysical) Tweeted:
> > >> Thread on why the Ukraine 2014 Euromaidan Revolution is probably going
> > to
> > >> end up the defining event of the century https://t.co/HHQpMPhocE
> > >> https://twitter.com/realboyphysical/status/1313302248919896067?s=20
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >> --
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