BEg2 Chap 8 Summary Part 1

[Hübschräuber]

Show me where there is a parody of Ruppert in BE. Just show me. You surely know that you have to be famiiar with the source in order to determine that there is parody? Are you?

Textual evidence welcome but most certainly not expected.

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Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> schrieb am Freitag, 10. Dezember 2021 um 23:57:

> Now it must be repeated again, he repeats: Pynchon parodies EVERYTHING, basically.
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:04 PM Huebschraeuber via Pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>
>> It is clear that one of Pynchon's sources for 9/11 is Michael Ruppert's
>> "Crossing the Rubicon" because the story of the Israeli microchip can be
>> found there, and only there (apart from Ruppert's online magazine "From
>> the Wilderness" where it was published first).
>>
>> This also helps to explain why the biggest, let us say, mystery of 9/11
>> is not mentioned in BE: The free-fall collapse of WTC7. It is not
>> mentioned by Ruppert, iirc.
>>
>> "The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the
>> collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and
>> private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary
>> conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global
>> failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the
>> building."
>>
>> https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7
>>
>> Am 10.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Joseph Tracy:
>>> “Which you think is more serious than simple fraud. What could be that big of a deal?”
>>> “You’re the expert, Maxine. If it was a classic fraud haven, Grand Cayman or whatever, it’d be one thing. But this is the Mideast, and somebody’s going to way too much trouble to keep secrets, as if Ice or somebody in his shop ain’t just squirreling it away but bankrolling something, something big and invisible—” BE pg 83
>>>
>>> I will probably get slammed for this but ….Let us suppose or at least ask iourselves if this secretive movement of money centered on Dubai is or could be something real and related to 9-11. Is it something that appears elsewhere? Could Pynchon, who seems to have some interesting sources of hard-to-access information and research be using fiction to make suggestions about who might have been in on the 9-11 plan beside Salafists temporarily centered in Afghanistan?
>>> Or is it a red herring? All I can say is by the time P wrote BE there had been a great deal of research into this event and to many people’s dissatisfaction, including family-members-of-victims who were part of 9-11 commission, many incriminating leads were abandoned due to the US’s friendly and lucrative relationship with Saudi Arabia and the inconvenience of digging too deep into conflicting evidence regarding the mainstream narrative.
>>> Dubai is a weird place, the international London/Switzerland of Arab/Islamic finance, a major world tourist destination and a safe haven for western interests, money operating in the Gulf. Its power and wealth have steadily increased since the gulf wars. If i recall, all the hijackers were either Saudis or UAE( Dubai).
>>>
>>> Would a high tech ’security” business be needed to facilitate hiding something this big, the movement of money, paying bribes, moving and silencing the right people, etc. ? My own skepticism has a lot to do with how much the narrative was controlled in an event that left so many questions and loose ends. I don’t have a theory, but am unsatisfied with the dismissal of legitimate questions.
>>>
>>> I can only say that it really seems to me that Pynchon too has questions about that narrative and has written what seems like a goofy detective story spiced with dead-end paranoia and a more obvious red herring ( the Kennedy-esque rooftop event)to remind us that some serious questions that really do demand the deeepest and most thorough attempt at resolution have been buried, while horrifyingly misdirected wars have been pursued with no positive result.
>>
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