BEg2 chapter 9

[Mark Kohut]

More "value-free: shit. Two Artificial Intelligence programs debated at
Oxford the other evening. On AI, of course:
Course co-director Dr Alex Connock admitted that the debate was something
of "a gimmick", but argued that as AI is likely to be the subject of
discussion "for decades to come" it was important to have a "morally
agnostic participant".

On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 3:37 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Whole shitload of historic resonance in these lines: p. 89
> "We're beyond good & evil here, the technology, it's neutral, eh?
>
> Ah, no it ain't, TRP's whole belief system says. This is what was said by
> many as science
> lost its human anchoring in the modern world. Value-free.NEVER.
> Scientists just working on nuclear
> fission or fusion because that's what pure scientists do; how the work
> will be used is not what they
> have to concern themselves with, right? Wrong. See an influence we think:
> Lewis Mumford.
> Front page NYT Book Review rave as the 60s turned into the 70s. (orig pub
> date, 1970):
> Pentagon Of Power: The Myth Of The Machine, Vol. II
> <https://www.amazon.com/Pentagon-Power-Myth-Machine-Vol/dp/0156716100/ref=sr_1_2?crid=32742K3A5T0WT&keywords=lewis+mumford+the+myth+of+the+machine&qid=1639816237&sprefix=mumford%2C+lewis+%2Caps%2C59&sr=8-2>
> by Lewis Mumford
> <https://www.amazon.com/Lewis-Mumford/e/B001HCW21A?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2&qid=1639816237&sr=8-2>
>   | Mar 20, 1974
> 4.8 out of
> Paperback
> <https://www.amazon.com/Pentagon-Power-Myth-Machine-Vol/dp/0156716100/ref=sr_1_2?crid=32742K3A5T0WT&keywords=lewis+mumford+the+myth+of+the+machine&qid=1639816237&sprefix=mumford%2C+lewis+%2Caps%2C59&sr=8-2>
> $27.99$27.99 $35.95$35.95
> <https://www.amazon.com/Pentagon-Power-Myth-Machine-Vol/dp/0156716100/ref=sr_1_2?crid=32742K3A5T0WT&keywords=lewis+mumford+the+myth+of+the+machine&qid=1639816237&sprefix=mumford%2C+lewis+%2Caps%2C59&sr=8-2>
>
> TRP shows us here what he fears is the case with computer/internet
> technology.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 3:20 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What does the sound of Lavoof's name remind a Pynchon reader of?
>> Half-a-Loaf?
>>
>> And Phipps Epperdew definition:
>>
>> Éperdue definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
>> <https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/eperdue>
>>
>> Éperdue definition: feminine form of eperdu , meaning distracted |
>> Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 2:55 AM Michael Bailey <
>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Quoth Quail:
>>>
>>> Cue Homer Simpson forehead slap and "D'oh!" on my part. You are right;
>>> of *course* Maxine's probably being sarcastic!
>>>
>>>
>>> - Only after a similar brow assault did that occur to me, hours after I
>>> posted.
>>>
>>>  I was getting ready to tie Guys and Dolls action into the theme of
>>> the book; the way Nathan Detroit was unable to commit, like Horst,
>>> might’ve been a good entry point. Windust would be like that Sky
>>> Masterson character, hustling Maxine off to Havana for Cuba Libres,
>>> and plotting against Castro at the same time? ACFE would be like the
>>> Salvation Army, Nicely Nicely Johnson could be…
>>>
>>>
>>> High School Musical? Noooooooooooooo!
>>>
>>>
>>> - Yeah, maybe one of the sequels instead. So hard to choose!
>>> --
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>>>
>>