AtD translation: invested in, invested by

[David Morris]

Mike,

I enjoy participating in your Pynchon text translation questions.  They are
fun diversions.  But often your questions seem aimed for interpretations.
That makes sense, of course, but I would suggest you keep track of
divergent interpretations, and translate to include the ambiguity of
Pynchon's word and logic games.  Pynchon loves paradox. This "invest in -
invest by" is pure paradox.  Pynchon at play.  Translating that is a tall
order.

David Morris

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 8:12 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So that's indeed the intended sense. Thanks for the reply.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 5:49 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, if time is endowed with agency, then all its adherents, those
>> enslave by it’s theories, are “invested by” time.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:59 AM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's the first one. What about the second?
>>>
>>> I found this in the OED, seems appropriate:
>>>
>>> 5. Military.
>>> a. transitive. To surround (a town, stronghold, etc.) with a hostile
>>> force, so as to cut off approach, escape, communication, or aid.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 11:41 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All of the listed groups have ideological investments in different
>>>> concepts in which Time is a Prime mover and unchangable.  If Time can be
>>>> manipulated then their entire world views are at risk.
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 8:21 PM Mike Jing <
>>>> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> P452.6-12   The conferees had gathered here from all around the world,
>>>>> Russian nihilists with peculiar notions about the laws of history and
>>>>> reversible processes, Indian swamis concerned with the effect of time
>>>>> travel on the laws of Karma, Sicilians with equal apprehensions for the
>>>>> principle of vendetta, American tinkers like Merle with specific
>>>>> electromechanical questions to clear up. Their spirits all one way or
>>>>> another invested in, invested by, the siegecraft of Time and its
>>>>> mysteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> In what senses are the two "invested" used, especially the second?
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>