NP but John Le Carre

Erik T. Burns eburns at gmail.com
Sun Jan 3 23:40:56 UTC 2021


in re beckett's the sun shone, one also ought to know better than to start
off talking about the weather... (as per Elmore Leonard)

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:05 PM John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was a big fan of the Bond movies as a kid, which isn't shocking given how
> they're mastubatory juvenile fantasies. Sexist, racist, homophobic, you
> name it. They are excellent distillations of their culture, and still work
> very well as time capsules. To that end you can consider the publicity
> images of the upcoming one, in which Bond is clutching some kind of assault
> rifle. Hardly the debonair superspy with his little Beretta or Walther PPK
> - now the fantasy is about being a rogue paramilitary trooper.
> Fleming's novels are just as indicative of a certain wish-fulfilment but
> the few I read way back when were deeply and unexpectedly nasty. I know the
> James Bond of the novels is supposed to be a deliberately unpleasant and
> boorish guy but I'm really not sure why they were so popular.
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:38 AM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sun shone. End of my argument. The "The" lends no weight to the sentence.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:29 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 'The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new.' hehe
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Long ago, I made  a policy, applicable only to myself: never read a
> book
> > >> whose opening sentence beins with "The." Any writer worth his or her
> > salt
> > >> knows better.
> > >>
> > >>
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