NP but John Le Carre

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Jan 3 23:57:06 UTC 2021


None of them knew the color of the sky. 

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> On Jan 3, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> in re beckett's the sun shone, one also ought to know better than to start
> off talking about the weather... (as per Elmore Leonard)
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:05 PM John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I was a big fan of the Bond movies as a kid, which isn't shocking given how
>> they're mastubatory juvenile fantasies. Sexist, racist, homophobic, you
>> name it. They are excellent distillations of their culture, and still work
>> very well as time capsules. To that end you can consider the publicity
>> images of the upcoming one, in which Bond is clutching some kind of assault
>> rifle. Hardly the debonair superspy with his little Beretta or Walther PPK
>> - now the fantasy is about being a rogue paramilitary trooper.
>> Fleming's novels are just as indicative of a certain wish-fulfilment but
>> the few I read way back when were deeply and unexpectedly nasty. I know the
>> James Bond of the novels is supposed to be a deliberately unpleasant and
>> boorish guy but I'm really not sure why they were so popular.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:38 AM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sun shone. End of my argument. The "The" lends no weight to the sentence.
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:29 PM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 'The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new.' hehe
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Long ago, I made  a policy, applicable only to myself: never read a
>> book
>>>>> whose opening sentence beins with "The." Any writer worth his or her
>>> salt
>>>>> knows better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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