Nobel Laureate to perform live July 18 of this year (2021)

[Mark Kohut]

JT: Early Dylan wrote prophetic material but did not, for obvious reasons
want that role as a person.

The "obvious' reason to me is that he knew he wasn't one nor did he want to
be taken as one.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:53 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Of course I was quoting Dylan with the "song and dance man" line. Early
> Dylan wrote prophetic material but did not, for obvious reasons want that
> role as a person. But we like to keep entertainers in their place and part
> of the reason he was labeled prophet and asked to explain his lyrics was to
> discredit him and keep him in line. Easier to culturally kill a
> prophet,particlarly a young one, than a poet.
>
>  What I am talking about as potentially causing a “greater cultural stir"
> is the actual fact that Kennedy was murdered by the deep state and that
> means that since then we are living in a false history, a fabricated
> understanding of what America is and that the reality of a murderous secret
> police within our government  working for capitalists has never been
> accepted into a significant revaluation of reality within our culture media
> or historic self description.  I am glad to hear there was more response
> than I noticed. These kinds of things used to have a bigger reverberation
> in the culture that would come more to my attention, but I accept that I
> may have missed some encouraging response. Also one thing people do in a
> case like this is talk about the genius of the message, in this case the
> references to Macbeth and pop music as culture signifiers and how it all
> works together as these reverberations through time that Dylan sounds like
> a repeating gong, and by emphasizing the artistry thus writers evade the
> call to consider the earth-shaking profundity of the meaning.
>    The reference to the obvious that I made was, again,  the core
> assertion of the song -   fact of the murder of Kennnedy by “they” not him,
> the facts all point to some combination of CIA, Mob and probably secret
> funders of the project, possibly some political insiders and FBI assistance
> (The point is there is a true ultra -right in America, fascists who agree
> on much and know each other, for whom murder is legitmate). There is never
> a lot of variation in the profile of these kinds of events around the
> world,  or who is involved. Most always they involve secret police,
> fascistic politicos,  criminals, and ultra right moneybags. I could list
> hundreds of examples just from CIA actions.
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Saying the "obvious' is not what he ever does...He "says" the profound in
> what often seem the obvious ways but
> are almost always subtler than any "obvious" we ever think we see.....
>
> He makes us inhabit the whole history of profound within the music
> alone....
>
> And, never forget he is the one who embraced calling himself "just a
> song-and-dance" man.....the ones who hold
> more truth than most of the world.
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:01 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> Should make for a nice retirement bonus. I wonder who is the King of
>> Shadow Kingdom?  I thought more of a cultural stir would come from Murder
>> Most Foul, seemed a work of genius enough to shake up the conspiracy theory
>> culture wars and get people talking, but nothing observable came of it.. He
>> was just saying the obvious, that it was a them and not a he and they are
>> still here and their kingdom continues and that is what is unacceptable to
>> say.  Shut up Bob. You’re just a “song and dance man”; don't be putting the
>> torch to the illusions.  Enough with the prophet shit, the Kingdom is fine,
>> the banks are sound, the trouble makers are under control.
>>    The king is dead. The city is smoke. Long live King Trystero.
>>
>> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Friends -
>> > Bob Dylan has announced details of a paid-for online performance
>> entitled
>> > 'Shadow Kingdom'. It launches on July 18 on the Veeps platform and will
>> be
>> > available to watch for 48 hours after the initial airing, with tickets
>> > costing US$25. A press releases states that Shadow Kingdom "will
>> showcase
>> > the artist in an intimate setting as he presents songs from his
>> extensive
>> > renowned body of work created especially for this event."
>> > You can order your tickets here:
>> >
>> https://bobdylan.veeps.com/stream/events/51f46a6e-11c1-4d31-97df-6eb9c6bd7f5f
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