Nobel Laureate to perform live July 18 of this year (2021)

[Mark Kohut]

I do not share the reading nor the "profundity' of the supposed message you
offer as a reading. Dylan is not so literal here nor almost anywhere except
in some of his great
political/social songs from "Only a Pawn in Their Game" thru Hurricane and
others. See what Dylan himself forcefully said about these kinds of songs,
how few they were
and more, how he resisted and mocked overreading into them. Which is a kind
of dissing, seeing all kinds of shit he did not put in there. Murder Most
Foul is a mood poem
song about America, in my judgment. A more somber but very akin to the
115th Dream Song America.

Dylan's few conspiracy theory utterings in interviews his whole creative
life have held no purchase against the artist's sense of the time, of the
world, of those song poems
that touch human nature all the way to where we sprung from, the soil of
all music, the folk.
He reminds me in this regard of Yeats, another great poet whose prosaic
"visions" fed great poetry never reducible to those ideas.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:53 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Of course I was quoting Dylan with the "song and dance man" line. Early
> Dylan wrote prophetic material but did not, for obvious reasons want that
> role as a person. But we like to keep entertainers in their place and part
> of the reason he was labeled prophet and asked to explain his lyrics was to
> discredit him and keep him in line. Easier to culturally kill a
> prophet,particlarly a young one, than a poet.
>
>  What I am talking about as potentially causing a “greater cultural stir"
> is the actual fact that Kennedy was murdered by the deep state and that
> means that since then we are living in a false history, a fabricated
> understanding of what America is and that the reality of a murderous secret
> police within our government  working for capitalists has never been
> accepted into a significant revaluation of reality within our culture media
> or historic self description.  I am glad to hear there was more response
> than I noticed. These kinds of things used to have a bigger reverberation
> in the culture that would come more to my attention, but I accept that I
> may have missed some encouraging response. Also one thing people do in a
> case like this is talk about the genius of the message, in this case the
> references to Macbeth and pop music as culture signifiers and how it all
> works together as these reverberations through time that Dylan sounds like
> a repeating gong, and by emphasizing the artistry thus writers evade the
> call to consider the earth-shaking profundity of the meaning.
>    The reference to the obvious that I made was, again,  the core
> assertion of the song -   fact of the murder of Kennnedy by “they” not him,
> the facts all point to some combination of CIA, Mob and probably secret
> funders of the project, possibly some political insiders and FBI assistance
> (The point is there is a true ultra -right in America, fascists who agree
> on much and know each other, for whom murder is legitmate). There is never
> a lot of variation in the profile of these kinds of events around the
> world,  or who is involved. Most always they involve secret police,
> fascistic politicos,  criminals, and ultra right moneybags. I could list
> hundreds of examples just from CIA actions.
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Saying the "obvious' is not what he ever does...He "says" the profound in
> what often seem the obvious ways but
> are almost always subtler than any "obvious" we ever think we see.....
>
> He makes us inhabit the whole history of profound within the music
> alone....
>
> And, never forget he is the one who embraced calling himself "just a
> song-and-dance" man.....the ones who hold
> more truth than most of the world.
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:01 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> Should make for a nice retirement bonus. I wonder who is the King of
>> Shadow Kingdom?  I thought more of a cultural stir would come from Murder
>> Most Foul, seemed a work of genius enough to shake up the conspiracy theory
>> culture wars and get people talking, but nothing observable came of it.. He
>> was just saying the obvious, that it was a them and not a he and they are
>> still here and their kingdom continues and that is what is unacceptable to
>> say.  Shut up Bob. You’re just a “song and dance man”; don't be putting the
>> torch to the illusions.  Enough with the prophet shit, the Kingdom is fine,
>> the banks are sound, the trouble makers are under control.
>>    The king is dead. The city is smoke. Long live King Trystero.
>>
>> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Friends -
>> > Bob Dylan has announced details of a paid-for online performance
>> entitled
>> > 'Shadow Kingdom'. It launches on July 18 on the Veeps platform and will
>> be
>> > available to watch for 48 hours after the initial airing, with tickets
>> > costing US$25. A press releases states that Shadow Kingdom "will
>> showcase
>> > the artist in an intimate setting as he presents songs from his
>> extensive
>> > renowned body of work created especially for this event."
>> > You can order your tickets here:
>> >
>> https://bobdylan.veeps.com/stream/events/51f46a6e-11c1-4d31-97df-6eb9c6bd7f5f
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