Re: BEg2 chapter 5 - “Winnie List”
Michael Bailey
michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Fri Nov 26 23:56:57 UTC 2021
Jane’s story culminates in her being the one at (name changed in story)
Time Warner Pathfinder to put the “OJ Guilty” misprint up -
https://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/pathfindermuseum/hello/1322882/1024/pathfinder6-2005.06.20-12.09.56.jpg
That brief error did happen.
Does that prove there was a Winnie? Of course not.
Is Jane’s story redolent with the flavor of dotcom contractors? Imho, yes.
Is BE redolent in a similar way at various places? I think so.
Does it improve the relishment of the story - yes.
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On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:05 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I found the Brown reference. He coined the phrase and concept, but
> he never elaborated upon what it meant in any practical way. I t sounded
> cool, but that’s all it ever was, a cool idea without any real application.
>
> But you don’t think Jane’s story or anything about Winnie’s list on
> Pynchonwiki was real, do you? What you call early dotcom lore is probably
> a fiction made up after ATD was published, right?
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:56 PM Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I appreciated the pointer to interesting early dotcom lore - & possible
>> source material for Pynchon: Jane’s story has the $30 an hour, the Winnie
>> list, &, seemed like, a couple other odds & ends that made it into BE -
>> never would’ve found it without trying to prove you wrong, David. Thanks!
>>
>> It may not be as high flown as finding an IG Farben employee manual, but
>> there’s a little frisson at Jane’s Story as a possible source, isn’t there?
>>
>>
>> Also, isn’t the Norman O Brown phrase you referenced the other day
>> “polymorphous perversity?”
>>
>>
>> Hope all your recuperating is going good!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:41 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I never thought Winnie’s list was anything other than a joke by
>>> Pynchon. It’s not like I complained about it.
>>>
>>> The crazy thing is how far someone on the Pynchonwiki went to “document”
>>> its reality. But what really made that suspicious was the length of Jane’s
>>> Story, and, of course it’s non-existence in any trace on the web.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:33 PM Michael Bailey <
>>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> BE is a work of fiction so it’s okay to have fictitious references
>>>> (imho)
>>>>
>>>> It’d be cool if employers thought so too (-;
>>>>
>>>
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