Re: BEg2 chapter 5 - “Winnie List”

[David Morris]

Are you saying Jane existed? Or that anything about that story (beside an
error in an OJReport) is true?

On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:57 PM Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jane’s story culminates in her being the one at (name changed in story)
> Time Warner Pathfinder to put the “OJ Guilty” misprint up -
>
>
> https://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/pathfindermuseum/hello/1322882/1024/pathfinder6-2005.06.20-12.09.56.jpg
>
> That brief error did happen.
>
> Does that prove there was a Winnie? Of course not.
>
> Is Jane’s story redolent with the flavor of dotcom contractors? Imho, yes.
> Is BE redolent in a similar way at various places? I think so.
> Does it improve the relishment of the story - yes.
>
> Want a Zima?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:05 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I found the Brown reference.  He coined the phrase and concept, but
>> he never elaborated upon what it meant in any practical way.  I t sounded
>> cool, but that’s all it ever was, a cool idea without any real application.
>>
>> But you don’t think Jane’s story or anything about Winnie’s list on
>> Pynchonwiki was real, do you?  What you call early dotcom lore is probably
>> a fiction made up after ATD was published, right?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:56 PM Michael Bailey <
>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciated the pointer to interesting early dotcom lore - & possible
>>> source material for Pynchon: Jane’s story has the $30 an hour, the Winnie
>>> list, &, seemed like, a couple other odds & ends that made it into BE -
>>> never would’ve found it without trying to prove you wrong, David. Thanks!
>>>
>>> It may not be as high flown as finding an IG Farben employee manual, but
>>> there’s a little frisson at Jane’s Story as a possible source, isn’t there?
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, isn’t the Norman O Brown phrase you referenced the other day
>>> “polymorphous perversity?”
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope all your recuperating is going good!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:41 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never thought Winnie’s list was anything other than a joke by
>>>> Pynchon.  It’s not like I complained about it.
>>>>
>>>> The crazy thing is how far someone on the Pynchonwiki went to
>>>> “document” its reality.  But what really made that suspicious was the
>>>> length of Jane’s Story, and, of course it’s non-existence in any trace on
>>>> the web.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 5:33 PM Michael Bailey <
>>>> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BE is a work of fiction so it’s okay to have fictitious references
>>>>> (imho)
>>>>>
>>>>> It’d be cool if employers thought so too (-;
>>>>>
>>>>