No comment although I have them.
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Thu Oct 14 10:23:31 UTC 2021
No, I don't think so either. Sarcasm to the max.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:28 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I think you are missing Mr Thomberi’s sarcasm. He is proposing
> annihilating Israel, because that’s how he is trying to frame ANY criticism
> of Israel. To him boycotting Israel is to propose its annihilation, so he
> sarcastically says “Bring it on! Let’s kill Israel!”
>
> Maybe I’m the one misreading him, but I don’t think so.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:16 PM matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mach,
> >
> > So let me see. You seem to propose the annihilation of Israel, a country
> > created whole cloth from ideas, dreams, stories and more by carving out a
> > space for that community that had formed a nation but lacked a state.
> >
> > Ok. Two things (that I'll say) occur to me: What do you propose for the
> > people? Do you have some... solution for them as well? Would it be the
> same
> > for Arabic and Jewish citizens? What would it entail?
> >
> > Next: If you (and others that share your view) are the descendent of
> > Europeans living in the Americas (or some other previously
> > colonized place), I suppose you are also ready to 'undo' your county and
> > hand over your land to the indigenous communities. Or are you writing
> from
> > somewhere else, in which case we might talk about that place.
> >
> > Criticizing the trespasses of any country or government is one thing, but
> > calling for its abolition is something else. The actions of the Israeli
> > government have often been reprehensible or even criminal, but that does
> > not justify your language, which would certainly find applause and echoes
> > in a certain rising current in not only US political discourse but more
> > widely.
> >
> > I'm responding not because I think your mind is likely to be changed but
> > because I want you and others to know that in this open forum you will
> find
> > voices that do not apathetically ignore your statements.
> >
> > Ne Obliviscaris
> > Matthew Cissell
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:33 PM Mach Thomberi <machthomberi at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > No we wouldn't want that would we. Deprive Israel water and medicine.
> > >
> > > What would be marvelous. Would be removing Israel from the map. Cut
> it
> > > out and dispense it into the ether.
> > >
> > > Then do likewise of our collective memory of Israel.
> > > On Oct 13, 2021 9:23 AM, "Joseph Tracy" <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would not go so far as to cut Israelis off from medicine or clean
> > water
> > > > as they have done to Gaza, but a cultural boycott is potentially a
> way
> > to
> > > > bring the debate into a more public sphere. We need equally to
> confront
> > > > what so many in the western press and politics have done on this
> > issue.
> > > > They have supported the insane idea that anyone who publicly
> > > criticizes
> > > > Israel’s abuse of Palestinians is doing so out of anti-semitism.
> They
> > > are
> > > > labeled anti-semitic even if they are Jews whose parents and
> relatives
> > > > survived or died in Nazi concentration camps.
> > > > Sally Rooney said she would be honored to have her book translated
> to
> > > > Hebrew but will not work with a publisher who does not distance
> > > themselves
> > > > from Israel’s aparteid treatment of Palestinians.
> > > >
> > > > > On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why no comment? This is a place for opinion. As for me, I say
> > > Bravo! I
> > > > > think Israel deserves full apartheid treatment right now. And too
> > many
> > > > > people are afraid to say so. There! I said it.
> > > > >
> > > > > David Morris
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://forward.com/opinion/476513/why-wont-sally-rooney-
> > > > allow-her-latest-novel-to-be-translated-into-hebrew/
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