Fwd: No comment although I have them.

Thu Oct 14 12:06:20 UTC 2021

Sincere ? or one of our jokesters under another name?

I don't much care, I'm outta this "discussion".

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From: Mach Thomberi <machthomberi at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: No comment although I have them.
To: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>

My two eminent emissions, I was not being sarcastic.  Nor am I at this
moment..

If you believe that Israel is right and good.  Good for you.  That does not
make me sarcastic.  It makes you an inhuman moron.  But so was Alexander
the Great, so I suppose you are in good company.

Surely you have heard, that a wise person once said, that we are creating
every moment.  There is actually no linear time.  There is no cause and
effect.  All potentialities in any and all given realities are recognized,
at once.  To say at this point, "Look backward then," is absurd.  It is
here now.

All I am saying.  Is have Israel be not into here.

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 5:23 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, I don't think so either. Sarcasm to the max.
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:28 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > I think you are missing Mr Thomberi’s sarcasm.  He is proposing
> > annihilating Israel, because that’s how he is trying to frame ANY
> criticism
> > of Israel. To him boycotting Israel is to propose its annihilation, so he
> > sarcastically says “Bring it on!  Let’s kill Israel!”
> >
> > Maybe I’m the one misreading him, but I don’t think so.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:16 PM matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mach,
> > >
> > > So let me see. You seem to propose the annihilation of Israel, a
> country
> > > created whole cloth from ideas, dreams, stories and more by carving
> out a
> > > space for that community that had formed a nation but lacked a state.
> > >
> > > Ok. Two things (that I'll say) occur to me: What do you propose for the
> > > people? Do you have some... solution for them as well? Would it be the
> > same
> > > for Arabic and Jewish citizens? What would it entail?
> > >
> > > Next: If you (and others that share your view) are the descendent of
> > > Europeans living in the Americas (or some other previously
> > > colonized place), I suppose you are also ready to 'undo' your county
> and
> > > hand over your land to the indigenous communities. Or are you writing
> > from
> > > somewhere else, in which case we might talk about that place.
> > >
> > > Criticizing the trespasses of any country or government is one thing,
> but
> > > calling for its abolition is something else. The actions of the Israeli
> > > government have often been reprehensible or even criminal, but that
> does
> > > not justify your language, which would certainly find applause and
> echoes
> > > in a certain rising current in not only US political discourse but more
> > > widely.
> > >
> > > I'm responding not because I think your mind is likely to be changed
> but
> > > because I want you and others to know that in this open forum you will
> > find
> > > voices that do not apathetically ignore your statements.
> > >
> > > Ne Obliviscaris
> > > Matthew Cissell
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:33 PM Mach Thomberi <machthomberi at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > No we wouldn't want that would we.  Deprive Israel water and
> medicine.
> > > >
> > > > What would be marvelous.  Would be removing Israel from the map.  Cut
> > it
> > > > out and dispense it into the ether.
> > > >
> > > > Then do likewise of our collective memory of Israel.
> > > > On Oct 13, 2021 9:23 AM, "Joseph Tracy" <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would not go so far as to cut Israelis off from medicine or clean
> > > water
> > > > > as they have done to Gaza, but a cultural boycott is potentially a
> > way
> > > to
> > > > > bring the debate into a more public sphere. We need equally to
> > confront
> > > > > what so many in the western press and politics  have done on this
> > > issue.
> > > > > They  have supported  the insane idea that anyone who publicly
> > > > criticizes
> > > > > Israel’s abuse of Palestinians is doing so out of  anti-semitism.
> > They
> > > > are
> > > > > labeled  anti-semitic even if they are Jews whose parents and
> > relatives
> > > > > survived or died  in Nazi concentration camps.
> > > > >   Sally Rooney said she would be honored to have her book
> translated
> > to
> > > > > Hebrew but will not work with a publisher who does not distance
> > > > themselves
> > > > > from Israel’s aparteid treatment of Palestinians.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why no comment?  This is a place for opinion.  As for me, I say
> > > > Bravo!  I
> > > > > > think Israel deserves full apartheid treatment right now.  And
> too
> > > many
> > > > > > people are afraid to say so.   There!  I said it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Morris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://forward.com/opinion/476513/why-wont-sally-rooney-
> > > > > allow-her-latest-novel-to-be-translated-into-hebrew/
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