No comment although I have them.

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On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:06 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sincere ? or one of our jokesters under another name?
>
> I don't much care, I'm outta this "discussion".
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Mach Thomberi <machthomberi at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 8:02 AM
> Subject: Re: No comment although I have them.
> To: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>
>
> My two eminent emissions, I was not being sarcastic.  Nor am I at this
> moment..
>
> If you believe that Israel is right and good.  Good for you.  That does not
> make me sarcastic.  It makes you an inhuman moron.  But so was Alexander
> the Great, so I suppose you are in good company.
>
> Surely you have heard, that a wise person once said, that we are creating
> every moment.  There is actually no linear time.  There is no cause and
> effect.  All potentialities in any and all given realities are recognized,
> at once.  To say at this point, "Look backward then," is absurd.  It is
> here now.
>
> All I am saying.  Is have Israel be not into here.
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 5:23 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, I don't think so either. Sarcasm to the max.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:28 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I think you are missing Mr Thomberi’s sarcasm.  He is proposing
> > > annihilating Israel, because that’s how he is trying to frame ANY
> > criticism
> > > of Israel. To him boycotting Israel is to propose its annihilation, so
> he
> > > sarcastically says “Bring it on!  Let’s kill Israel!”
> > >
> > > Maybe I’m the one misreading him, but I don’t think so.
> > >
> > > David Morris
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:16 PM matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mach,
> > > >
> > > > So let me see. You seem to propose the annihilation of Israel, a
> > country
> > > > created whole cloth from ideas, dreams, stories and more by carving
> > out a
> > > > space for that community that had formed a nation but lacked a state.
> > > >
> > > > Ok. Two things (that I'll say) occur to me: What do you propose for
> the
> > > > people? Do you have some... solution for them as well? Would it be
> the
> > > same
> > > > for Arabic and Jewish citizens? What would it entail?
> > > >
> > > > Next: If you (and others that share your view) are the descendent of
> > > > Europeans living in the Americas (or some other previously
> > > > colonized place), I suppose you are also ready to 'undo' your county
> > and
> > > > hand over your land to the indigenous communities. Or are you writing
> > > from
> > > > somewhere else, in which case we might talk about that place.
> > > >
> > > > Criticizing the trespasses of any country or government is one thing,
> > but
> > > > calling for its abolition is something else. The actions of the
> Israeli
> > > > government have often been reprehensible or even criminal, but that
> > does
> > > > not justify your language, which would certainly find applause and
> > echoes
> > > > in a certain rising current in not only US political discourse but
> more
> > > > widely.
> > > >
> > > > I'm responding not because I think your mind is likely to be changed
> > but
> > > > because I want you and others to know that in this open forum you
> will
> > > find
> > > > voices that do not apathetically ignore your statements.
> > > >
> > > > Ne Obliviscaris
> > > > Matthew Cissell
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:33 PM Mach Thomberi <
> machthomberi at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No we wouldn't want that would we.  Deprive Israel water and
> > medicine.
> > > > >
> > > > > What would be marvelous.  Would be removing Israel from the map.
> Cut
> > > it
> > > > > out and dispense it into the ether.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then do likewise of our collective memory of Israel.
> > > > > On Oct 13, 2021 9:23 AM, "Joseph Tracy" <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would not go so far as to cut Israelis off from medicine or
> clean
> > > > water
> > > > > > as they have done to Gaza, but a cultural boycott is potentially
> a
> > > way
> > > > to
> > > > > > bring the debate into a more public sphere. We need equally to
> > > confront
> > > > > > what so many in the western press and politics  have done on this
> > > > issue.
> > > > > > They  have supported  the insane idea that anyone who publicly
> > > > > criticizes
> > > > > > Israel’s abuse of Palestinians is doing so out of  anti-semitism.
> > > They
> > > > > are
> > > > > > labeled  anti-semitic even if they are Jews whose parents and
> > > relatives
> > > > > > survived or died  in Nazi concentration camps.
> > > > > >   Sally Rooney said she would be honored to have her book
> > translated
> > > to
> > > > > > Hebrew but will not work with a publisher who does not distance
> > > > > themselves
> > > > > > from Israel’s aparteid treatment of Palestinians.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why no comment?  This is a place for opinion.  As for me, I say
> > > > > Bravo!  I
> > > > > > > think Israel deserves full apartheid treatment right now.  And
> > too
> > > > many
> > > > > > > people are afraid to say so.   There!  I said it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David Morris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Mark Kohut <
> mark.kohut at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://forward.com/opinion/476513/why-wont-sally-rooney-
> > > > > > allow-her-latest-novel-to-be-translated-into-hebrew/
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