Dune and psychedelic desert messiahs

[Ian Livingston]

Correct. The protagonist's visionary inclination is well established
considerably before his first contact with the psychoactive qualities of
the "spice". In fact, I don't recall any reference to hallucinatory
effects. That is imposed by trip-seeking viewers.

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 1:09 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It does not rely on tripping.
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good to hear it’s not a dog.  Early reviews said it was either sublime or
> > an overwrought-yet empty mess.  Sounds like it relies on tripping?  THAT
> > could be a mess (usually is in film).
> >
> >  Thanks
> > DM
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:44 PM Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Saw it yesterday as well. A shout-out to Villeneuve's fidelity to early
> > > sci-fi aesthetics.  Reminds me of John Harris and pre-90s book covers.
> > > Villeneuve shows much skill in making authorial, fringe ergotic sci-fi.
> > > What not to love when a genre goes artistic?
> > >
> > > Space travel: spice. A hallucinogen. To travel light is to get rid of
> > brain
> > > patterns.
> > >
> > > Le sam. 23 oct. 2021 à 12:50, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> a écrit
> :
> > >
> > > > Went to see Dune last night, mostly Williams College kids attending,
> > > > needed some escapist nonsense. It was well done I thought, good
> acting,
> > > > good music and sound effects if slightly over the top with the big
> > drums.
> > > > Visually severe, engaging, ominous in story-appropriateriate ways. I
> > > > wondered if the whole heroic desert freedom fighters with Islamic
> style
> > > > might shake up the imagination of young watchers shaped by
> anti-Muslim
> > > > cultural atmosphere. Stayed quite close to the book, more condensed.
> > Not
> > > > sure visionary psychedelic messiahs leading desert rebels against the
> > > > exploitation of a cruel empire has serious relevance, but it could
> be a
> > > lot
> > > > worse. It is only half the first book.
> > > >   I thought Herbert made a big mistake killing off the ecologist
> when I
> > > re
> > > > read the book most of a year ago. I still think so, too central as a
> > > > redeeming theme.
> > > >
> > > > I have an increasingly hard time with big Iron machines traveling
> light
> > > > years through space while people fight with swords.  We are so
> fucking
> > > far
> > > > from real space travel.
> > > >
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