Dune and psychedelic desert messiahs

[David Morris]

Beavis sez, “Market Cume!”

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 4:46 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> To the hope Dune is a big hit. I believed as soon as I saw how many
> Plisters, the eye of
> the market maybe-- for the non-young anyway, had seen it opening weekend
> that it was
> a BIG HIT.
>
> It is. With that bump that studios and the director love to see: an
> increase after opening that
> is usually caused by good word-of-mouth.
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-china-uk-korea-opening-international-box-office-1234860686/
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 4:13 PM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Correct. The protagonist's visionary inclination is well established
> > considerably before his first contact with the psychoactive qualities of
> > the "spice". In fact, I don't recall any reference to hallucinatory
> > effects. That is imposed by trip-seeking viewers.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 1:09 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It does not rely on tripping.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good to hear it’s not a dog.  Early reviews said it was either
> sublime
> > or
> > > > an overwrought-yet empty mess.  Sounds like it relies on tripping?
> > THAT
> > > > could be a mess (usually is in film).
> > > >
> > > >  Thanks
> > > > DM
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 3:44 PM Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Saw it yesterday as well. A shout-out to Villeneuve's fidelity to
> > early
> > > > > sci-fi aesthetics.  Reminds me of John Harris and pre-90s book
> > covers.
> > > > > Villeneuve shows much skill in making authorial, fringe ergotic
> > sci-fi.
> > > > > What not to love when a genre goes artistic?
> > > > >
> > > > > Space travel: spice. A hallucinogen. To travel light is to get rid
> of
> > > > brain
> > > > > patterns.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le sam. 23 oct. 2021 à 12:50, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Went to see Dune last night, mostly Williams College kids
> > attending,
> > > > > > needed some escapist nonsense. It was well done I thought, good
> > > acting,
> > > > > > good music and sound effects if slightly over the top with the
> big
> > > > drums.
> > > > > > Visually severe, engaging, ominous in story-appropriateriate
> ways.
> > I
> > > > > > wondered if the whole heroic desert freedom fighters with Islamic
> > > style
> > > > > > might shake up the imagination of young watchers shaped by
> > > anti-Muslim
> > > > > > cultural atmosphere. Stayed quite close to the book, more
> > condensed.
> > > > Not
> > > > > > sure visionary psychedelic messiahs leading desert rebels against
> > the
> > > > > > exploitation of a cruel empire has serious relevance, but it
> could
> > > be a
> > > > > lot
> > > > > > worse. It is only half the first book.
> > > > > >   I thought Herbert made a big mistake killing off the ecologist
> > > when I
> > > > > re
> > > > > > read the book most of a year ago. I still think so, too central
> as
> > a
> > > > > > redeeming theme.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an increasingly hard time with big Iron machines traveling
> > > light
> > > > > > years through space while people fight with swords.  We are so
> > > fucking
> > > > > far
> > > > > > from real space travel.
> > > > > >
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