total mass retain

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Feb 14 15:26:58 UTC 2022


Please include me in this most geeky esoteric music group ever.  I will
mostly just observe and munch on my popcorn, but I’m sure it’s going to be
fascinating.

David Morris

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:20 AM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Excellent link, Rich! I'd heard of Shub Niggurath, but I'd never heard
> any of their compositions. This one ("Yog Sothoth") has a real Univers
> Zero feel to it, and I really, REALLY like it. So thanks for that!
>
> This is the last prog rock email that I'll be sending to the Whole
> Sick Crew. I'll be creating a separate, very informal sub-list of
> those interested in the topic  of the most obscure and avant-garde of
> prog (currently numbering just myself and Allen/Quail unless and until
> anyone else asks to be included). Now, by obscure, I don't just mean
> poorly-selling! It could even involve some thoughts about Pink Floyd,
> one of the most popular and successful acts of the rock era, as long
> as those thoughts are, themselves, obscure, novel, strange, or what
> have you (like, I'd love to share with anyone interested my
> interpretation of "Echoes" as being a treatment in song form about a
> motion picture depicting the ultimate saga... that being the evolution
> of life on Earth, from it's utmost absolute beginnings as blue green
> algae).
>
> And so, if you want to be included in any future prog rock email
> discussions with myself and Allen, let me know and I'll put you on the
> list!
>
> In the meantime, a parting gift of a piece of progressive rock that I
> HOPE is new to everyone here (but will probably turn out not to be):
> "Recit", by the Japanese Zeuhl group, Bondage Fruit!
> https://youtu.be/Yka_sq_9bDk
>
> Cheers,
> yer old pal Jerky
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 10:22 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > i'm sure you know about these guys but if not if u like the dark
> Red-crimson era (and who doesn't)  granchildren you cant go wrong with Unit
> Wail, a side band of legendary French guitarist Frank W Fromy of Shub
> Niggurath frame, whose mid-80s lp Les Morts Vont Vite (and intro cassette
> titled Introduction, is imho, the best musical companion to Lovecraft's
> writing. Yog Sothoth is a highlight.
> >
> > Yog Sothoth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1Icb1iuMA
> >
> > https://unitwail.bandcamp.com/
> >
> > rich
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 10:54 PM Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Re: my "zeuhl" v. "Kobaïan" nomenclatural conflation... I DID say that
> >> I was quite sick, yes?
> >>
> >> But seriously... I can already tell this is a fight I want no part of.
> >>
> >> And of course, it would be on the Pynchon-List that I encounter the
> >> progiste whose prog obsession puts my progophilia to shame.
> >>
> >> I hereby surrender to the better man. Teach me, teacher!
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> yer old pal Jerky
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 8:29 PM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I was going to let this drop, as I'm sure it's uninteresting most
> Listers, but I cannot let Jerky's challenge stand!
> >> >
> >> > An AMATEUR, you say, my friend? Ho ho ho! I am quite familiar with
> RIO, although I prefer Etron Fou Leloublan to 5uu, and probably Univers
> Zéro most of all. (Though 5uu is quite good!) I have an extensive
> collection of 1970s Andalusian prog, possess every King Crimson box set,
> and can rattle off the date of every Steven Wilson prog remaster. I am
> currently listening to Wobbler as I type this, with Centipede queued up
> next, just for spite!
> >> >
> >> > And feel free to make your puns, my dear friend: but note that the
> *language* is Kobaïan -- "zeuhl" is merely "celestial!"
> >> >
> >> > —Qüail wört Qüailönik
> >> >
> >> > PS: But seriously, email me offlist and we can chat about obscure
> prog ALL DAY LONG! I also love Anekdoten...!
> >> >
> >> > On 2/12/22, 2:55 PM, "Mark Thibodeau" <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     When it comes to Prog Rock Love, I'm willing to bet y'all cats are
> >> >     AMATEURS compared to MY ridiculous, shameless self.
> >> >
> >> >     I'm too sick to come up with the sort of (admittedly excellent)
> proggy
> >> >     puns in the style of whoever it is who wanted mountains to come
> out of
> >> >     the sky and STAND THERE (was it you, David?), but if I wasn't this
> >> >     sick, my puns would involve my adventures with a trio of Lamia who
> >> >     leave a scent of garlic to linger on my chocolate fingers, and it
> >> >     would be in Zeuhl, monkeyfisters!!!
> >> >
> >> >     Don't talk to me about obscure until you've discovered and fallen
> >> >     forever in love with bizarre Israeli Rock In Opposition bands
> like The
> >> >     5 UU's, or Swedish bands who devote themselves entirely to
> emulating
> >> >     exactly ONE of King Crimson SIX distinct stylistic periods (that
> band
> >> >     would be Anekdoten, and that stylistic period would be the "Lark's
> >> >     Tongues in Aspic/Starless and Bible Black/Red" era).
> >> >
> >> >     So try finding The 5UU's song "Roan" from their album "Hunger's
> >> >     Teeth", and/or Anekdoten's "From Within", from the eponymous
> album on
> >> >     Youtube. They don't have fancy-shmancy "vidayos" (with the
> exception
> >> >     of a few live ones, but ignore those), but the songs are there.
> ...Oh,
> >> >     boy, are they ever.
> >> >
> >> >     Enh. I'm tired. Gotta go lie down.
> >> >
> >> >     Prog Rocker in Residence
> >> >     yer old pal Jerky LeBoeuf, Esq.
> >> >
> >> >     On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 3:10 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >     >
> >> >     > You’re thinking of the Lizard People, or are they the same
> thing?
> >> >     >
> >> >     > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:48 PM Allen Ruch <
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
> >> >     > wrote:
> >> >     >
> >> >     > > I dunno…. If the CIA were really serious, they would have
> used STEELY DAN…
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > From: Neal Fultz <nfultz at gmail.com>
> >> >     > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 12:18 PM
> >> >     > > To: Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
> >> >     > > Cc: The Whole Sick Crew <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >> >     > > Subject: Re: total mass retain
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > The Grateful Dead was a cia psyop. Slayer was used by the cia
> to torture
> >> >     > > prisoners. Maybe you're closer to the edge than you think?
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 9:05 AM Allen Ruch <
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>> wrote:
> >> >     > > Bitch, I wore a Grateful Dead T-shirt to a Slayer concert.
> I’m fearless, I
> >> >     > > tell you, FEARLESS! …livin’ life close to the edge, so to
> speak….
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:
> fqmorris at gmail.com>>
> >> >     > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 11:59 AM
> >> >     > > To: Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com<mailto:
> >> >     > > quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>
> >> >     > > Cc: The Whole Sick Crew <pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:
> pynchon-l at waste.org>>
> >> >     > > Subject: Re: NP: total mass retain
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > I bet you would NEVER admit to YES at Club Cologne…
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:37 AM Allen Ruch <
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>> wrote:
> >> >     > > Ha ha ha!
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > I’ve seen Yes in its various forms over a dozen times. I’ve
> met Roger Dean
> >> >     > > and had him autograph a print. I place the exact date the
> everything went
> >> >     > > to hell as June 27, 2015: the day Chris Squire died.
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > I TOUCHED RICK WAKEMAN’S CAPE!!!
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > —Quail
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:
> fqmorris at gmail.com><mailto:
> >> >     > > fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>>>
> >> >     > > Date: Friday, February 11, 2022 at 11:19 AM
> >> >     > > To: Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com<mailto:
> >> >     > > quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> <mailto:
> >> >     > > quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>>
> >> >     > > Cc: The Whole Sick Crew <pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:
> pynchon-l at waste.org
> >> >     > > ><mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>>>
> >> >     > > Subject: Re: BEg2 ch 18 quick summary, private noses
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > OMG-icron!  Please, not, YES!!!  Please tell me you are
> kidding…. Or just
> >> >     > > shoot me, already!
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 11:14 AM Allen Ruch <
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>><mailto:
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com><mailto:
> quail at shipwrecklibrary.com
> >> >     > > <mailto:quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>>>> wrote:
> >> >     > > David Morris replies from his yacht, piña colada in hand,
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > > You are just too fucking punk!  And fuck you! I like Steely
> Dan. ;)
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > Well, they’re one notch better than The Eagles, I’ll give you
> that. But
> >> >     > > I’m actually not very punk—I’m prog, baby. Give me a twenty
> minute long
> >> >     > > song about warring trees! I want my mountains to come out of
> the sky, and
> >> >     > > STAND THERE! I know what I see when I walk across the sitting
> room and turn
> >> >     > > the television on….
> >> >     > >
> >> >     > > —Quail, thankfully he’s FINALLY baited a Steely Dan fan on
> this fucking
> >> >     > > list…
> >> >     > > --
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