BEg2 chapter 12 digging in to summary

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Thu Jan 6 16:12:38 UTC 2022


Well, I have a different reading on Maxine, and Shawn....but people are
different in their interpretations and entitled to them....
 And all I feel the need to say here is that I think Pynchon makes clear
that there are no "foundational principles" of a practice that he is making
fun of because it really doesn't exist.....Unlike Maxine's work....

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> So Shawn was betraying the foundational principles of the practice by
> replacing therapeutic whining with sitting still. That actually is kinda
> zen.  Will Maxine report him to the emo licensing board?  In the slightly
> more real side I would say that Maxine keeps going back to Shawn because he
> is willing to confront Maxine enough to get her to think things through
> more comprehensively, which on her own , she mght avoid. I think this is in
> the nature of therapy for many, that  the ‘patient’ is giving someone else
> permission to get to know them in an unguarded way, and use that insight
> to be calmly real and honest with them about things they know they would
> not be real and honest about. Something like that.
>
> I do wonder how you would look if you pulled an all-nighter at a sensory
> deprivation tank? Is P implying way layed back or bedraggled? Oh the
> mysteries.
>
> > On Jan 6, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Let's not overlook that an emotherapist is a joke of a therapist. P has
> > created this compound word, ya know. (he's created others in BE,
> > Shakespeare-like)
> > Emo therapist is how it appears in real life but it isn't *really* a
> thing.
> >
> > What is Emotherapy? - meaning and definition - Slang Define
> > <https://slangdefine.org/e/emotherapy-2660.html>
> > https://slangdefine.org › emotherapy-2660
> > <https://slangdefine.org/e/emotherapy-2660.html>
> > A form of rehabilitation of the mind by means of excessive and continuous
> > whining.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JRKqmFvyI
> > Emotherapy - 1. A form of rehabilitation of the mind by means of
> excessive
> > and continuous whining. I highly recommend you continue your emotherapy.
> >
> >
> > https://emofree.com/unseen-therapist/prelim/read-this-first.html
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:30 AM Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Joseph Tracy wrote:
> >>
> >> Downtown to see Shawn the emotherapist, she tells him Horst is back,
> >> he asks ”back?” she doesn’t know,  ends up sitting quiet for session.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the summary, Joseph!
> >>
> >> Shawn “ looks like he’s just pulled an all-nighter at a
> >> sensory-deprivation tank.”
> >>
> >> Hey! I’ve tried those but never an all-nighter. They do offer them. I
> >> think if he relaxed, he would’ve had a great night’s sleep.
> >>
> >> I always got fidgety around an hour, probably because I knew the time
> >> was going to be up, even getting up to check…even though a buzzer was
> >> going to go off. But the rest of the time was tres relaxing.
> >>
> >> Maybe Shawn is looking refreshed or maybe his hair is wet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Church of Elvis in Las Vegas - bunches of similar names, no exact
> >> match (though there is a church of St John Coltrane in San Francisco)
> >>
> >>
> >> What would Dōgen do?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.asianstudies.org/publications/eaa/archives/dogen-his-life-religion-and-poetry/
> >>
> >> He’d probably found a monastery or write a poem or something, but
> >> since they only have an hour, Maxine opts to sit.
> >>
> >> Neither Maxine nor Shawn delves into the finer points of Soto Zen; the
> >> point might be more about looking for an example in keeping with the
> >> spirit of emotherapy, like those wwjd bracelets for a different belief
> >> system.
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