NP - for the Ukraine discussion group

[Martin Dietze]

Howdy, too.
While I most likely will not agree with him, I'm out anyway.
I really want to concentrate on providing first hand information on Ukraine
(maybe also debunking myths) and on insisting that the ones making decision
about Ukraine's future should really be its people.
I doubt that "geopolitical intellctualism" is beneficial, regardless which
direction it chooses, as long as Ukraine is treated as an object rather
than a subject.
The Mearsheimers of this world tend to do just that.

Plase just try to imagine your country and your people being talked like
this: there's a crisis about you, you violate other countries' "vital
interests", you're supposed to remain in some other country's "sphere of
interests", and your vital interests (which you have a right to have, just
consider the KSCE agreement all super powers have signed) are in fact
considered irrelevant, you're actually being blamed to be manipulated by
THEM. What would your reaction be like?

That's my perspective. If not the people are put first, if international
contracts are being ignored and the "weaker countries" just get a kick in
the bottom, then we haven't learned a shit since 1945.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 16:19, matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> By following the exchange between the various parties on this subject, I
> have certainly been prompted to chase down some references.
>
> Then the YT algo stepped in and chucked a lecture at me. University of
> Chicago Professor John Mearsheimer gave a lecture back in 2015 called
> "UnCommon
> Core: The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis". I think it has
> aged well; you can find other videos in which he talks on the subject. He
> is far from being a hawkish republican. In 40 minutes you get his message,
> and it's worth listening to.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
>
> ciao
> mc otis
>
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