How many Ukrainians have to be massacred?

[Joseph Tracy]

It is well documented since 2014 in several polls that Crimeans, who are ethically mixed but with a high percent of ethnic Russians , chose to rejoin Russia and continue to prefer that over the Government of Ukraine* over 80 % in all polls I have seen.  Why? among other reasons Ukraine has been  rated for decades as the most corrupt government in Europe. Another reason is that the coup government immediately targeted the elimination of the Russian language and murdered dissenters who did not wan to surrender to government by coup.. Your scenario of violent overthrow of Crimea is absurd and stupid and historically without evidence. 
 I’m pretty sure you did not read the articles about Zelensky or understand their significance. Having lied his way into power, ignored popular will, refused to implement the Minsk accords and now having put down opposition media and political parties, he is effectively a western empowered dictator who has relied heavily on Neo Nazi support. Is that ho-hum par for the course? Perhaps but I still find it disgusting.
I don’t believe the world is divided by heroes and and evils. Evil is evenly and powerfully at work throughout the world as is human kindness and decency. I do however believe the age of anglo hegemony  is over  along with its claims to virtue, and the pot calling the kettle black is getting old for much of the world who do not live in or give credence to Imperial propaganda. Gravity’s Rainbow was right, we are in the age of competing versions of fascism. It will not get better anytime soon.  

Even the loathesome Henry Kissinger is calling for cutting losses before escalation becomes madness and mass destruction.

* https://www.huffpost.com/entry/give-the-crimeans-what-th_b_4982524 <https://www.huffpost.com/entry/give-the-crimeans-what-th_b_4982524>
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ukraine/2020-04-03/russia-love <https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ukraine/2020-04-03/russia-love> the mi
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/41448/do-the-crimean-people-prefer-to-be-with-russia-than-with-ukraine <https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/41448/do-the-crimean-people-prefer-to-be-with-russia-than-with-ukraine>

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 7:51 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Your "reply" was basically that Zelensky is about as "corrupt" as the
> average American small business man, and that the "massacres" carried out
> by Ukraine against Russians were, for the most part, casualties suffered by
> the Russians during their violent invasion and occupation of Crimea...
> sovereign  Ukrainian territory that Russia had pledged to leave alone just
> a few years previous, in exchange for the Ukraine turning over its nukes
> (which it did, in good faith).
> 
> Forgive me if I'm not impressed.
> 
> J.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:00 PM Thomas Eckhardt <
> huebschraeuber at protonmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I replied to your questions. Don't read anything into my words that
>> isn't  there.
>> 
>> As you did not reply to me, I assume that your questions have been fully
>> answered.
>> 
>> The village idiot may want to look up the definition of "whataboutism".
>> Here's a hint: A specific answer to a specific question is not called a
>> whataboutism.
>> 
>> 
>> Am 02.06.2022 um 19:07 schrieb Mark Thibodeau:
>>> I was wondering about that, too, David. And I was also wondering about
>>> the full geopolitical context of said massacre(s?)...
>>> 
>>> Jerky
>> 
>> 
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