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[David Elliott]

 The Washington Post covered the firing and the questioning of some of the reports of rape.  I don’t know about the New York Times. The fact that she was fired says something positive for Ukraine.
    On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 06:33:24 AM EDT, Thomas Eckhardt via Pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:  
 
 
As regards the story about the rapes, I was not referring to a specific
article or a specific media outlet but to a propaganda narrative which
originated from the Ukrainian government, was spread by Western media
and governments with varying degrees of cautiousness, and was further
spread by Twitter accounts without any caution at all.

The U.S. Ambassador to the UN:

'Thomas-Greenfield said Russian forces were "wielding sexual violence as
a weapon of war," and that the U.S. government had received reports
"that Russian soldiers raped Ukrainian women for hours — and then killed
them."'

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-storms-u-n-told-113623610.html?

Examples from the media include:

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/30/1093339262/ukraine-russia-rape-war-crimes?t=1654930819857

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/22/europe/ukraine-sexual-violence-allegations-russia-cmd-intl/index.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russia-rape-weapon-of-war-ukraine_n_62617db5e4b0e900dcd34011

If the NYT did not take part in this, good for them.

What I also meant to say was that I do not believe that the NYT and the
WP will report on the firing of the Ukrainian human rights commissioner
and the reasons for it. Hopefully, they will prove me wrong and correct
the record.

The OSCE is probably the best source we have. Instead of the propaganda
narrative of a Manichean fight between good and evil we get this much
more reasonable assessment:

"As this report shows, violations occurred on the Ukrainian as well as
on the Russian side. The violations committed by the Russian
Federation, however, are by far larger in nature and scale."

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/f/a/515868.pdf




Am 11.06.2022 um 04:56 schrieb Robert Mahnke:
> I took you to imply that the New York Times has reported that Russia
> has used mass rape as a weapon of war, although perhaps I
> misunderstood you. Curious, I searched the Times. The only articles I
> see note allegations of multiple rapes, but do not suggest they are
> fact, and also note allegations about similar conduct by Ukraine. FWIW.
>
>

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