Germany, experts on Nazism as they say here, tell Russia to fuck off and speak the truth many couldn't see.
Thomas Eckhardt
huebschraeuber at protonmail.com
Wed Mar 9 18:50:52 UTC 2022
Martin Dietze: "a peaceful country".
"Total conflict-related casualties in Ukraine in 2014-2021
OHCHR estimates the total number of conflict-related casualties in
Ukraine from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021 to be 51,000–54,0008:
14,200-14,400 killed (at least 3,404 civilians, estimated 4,400
Ukrainian forces, and estimated 6,500 members of armed groups), and
37-39,000 injured (7,000–9,000 civilians, 13,800–14,200
Ukrainian forces and 15,800-16,200 members of armed groups."
"Civilian casualties caused by active hostilities in 2018-2021, per
territory."
In territory controlled by the self-proclaimed 'republics':
81.4 per cent
https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf
Martin Dietze: "Anti semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very
low level compared to neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The
author does not seem to know about this, hence he feels ambivalent about
Ukraine."
From the noted Russian propaganda outlet Haaretz:
"'Clear the Kikes From Ukraine!' Who Will Confront Kiev's Spiraling
anti-Semitism Problem?
When the same vicious anti-Semitism is voiced by a far right militia
leader and a Ukrainian diplomat, it's a sign how deeply Jew-hatred, and
hyper-nationalist Holocaust revisionism are contaminating Ukrainian
society and politics"
"[A Ukrainian diplomat] went on to write: 'My God: Punish kikes,' and
'Babi Yar. Not kikes in 1941, but Ukrainians from 1918-1941 were killed
here.' And: 'The Jews declared war against Germany back in March 1934,'
and 'Death to anti-fascists.'
His flagrant anti-Semitism is not an isolated example. That is clearer
than ever reading the 23-page report on anti-Semitic incidents in
Ukraine over the past year prepared by the United Jewish Community of
Ukraine, the country’s Jewish community representative organization.
The report’s depressing findings show that anti-Semitic tendencies are
widespread across the right-wing political spectrum, among politicians
of different party affiliations."
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-clear-the-kikes-from-ukraine-who-will-confront-kiev-s-anti-semitism-problem-1.7910931
The report by the United Jewish Community of Ukraine:
https://jew.org.ua/images/pdf/Report%20Anti-Semitism%20in%20Ukraine%202018%20(UJCU%20REPORT).pdf
"How perfectly this fits into Rusian propaganda."
A good article on Ukraine's Nazi problem from another noted Russian
propaganda outlet:
"In recent months, Ukraine has experienced a wave of unchecked
vigilantism. Institute Respublica, a local pro-democracy NGO, reported
that activists are frequently harassed by vigilantes when holding legal
meetings or rallies related to politically-controversial positions, such
as the promotion of LGBT rights or opposition to the war. Azov and other
militias have attacked anti-fascist demonstrations, city council
meetings, media outlets, art exhibitions, foreign students and Roma."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
The ten commandments of propaganda apply to both sides:
We do not want war.
The enemy alone is to be blamed for the war.
The enemy is inherently evil, resembling the devil.
We defend a noble cause, not our own interest.
The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary.
The enemy uses illegal weapons.
We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
Artists and intellectuals back our cause.
Our cause is holy, it has a sacred character.
Whoever doubts our propaganda, is a traitor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Morelli
------- Original Message -------
Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> schrieb am Dienstag, 8. März 2022 um
21:49:
> A rather subjective view, widely clueless about anti semitism in the
whole of the east slavic world, both historically and today. Anti
semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very low level compared to
neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The author does not seem to
know about this, hence he feels ambivalent about Ukraine. How perfectly
this fits into Russian propaganda. And how damaging it is for a peaceful
country invaded and systematically destroyed by an imperial-minded,
blood-thirsty dicatorship. And how unsurprising that people who have
"always known" about Ukraine as a country with a "nazi problem" now
share this stuff.
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