Germany, experts on Nazism as they say here, tell Russia to fuck off and speak the truth many couldn't see.

Wed Mar 9 22:01:56 UTC 2022

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 3:54 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody who isn't sick isn't .......FILL IN THE WORD...
> ....my sleep has been broken for two weeks...(time of some of my posts an
> indicator...)
>
> I try concentrating on Pynchon and other "work" for my upcoming
> classes......
>
> But then there is the news and the images....
>
> Keeping to my vow to myself for self-care, LOL, as they call it and a word
> Pynchon would have fun with (and probably did in BE)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 3:10 PM Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Something else for Thomas to take a look at:
> > https://twitter.com/stefsiohan/status/1501621715897655301/photo/1
> >
> > I could reply to every single point of his pointless "proofs", but,
> > honestly, I am just too sick for this shit.
> >
> > Have fun translating what I wrote in Ukrainian in my previous reply.
> > Little hint: there's a bit of a citation in it. That episode cost 13
> border
> > guards their lives.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:04, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell>
> >> Tristan Snell
> >> @TristanSnell
> >> <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell>
> >> ·
> >> 2h <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1501611041372971012>
> >> Putin just bombed a children’s and maternity hospital in Mariupol,
> >> Ukraine, literally murdering mothers and newborn babies.
> >>
> >>
> >> Look at all the violence Ukraine causes.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:08 PM Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So you can see what Russia has done.
> >>> Just do stop sharing bullshit.
> >>> Better watch some movie, you'll enjoy it:
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVQrJ5-ap1c&t=2s
> >>> And if you still don't get it - Німецький вертоліт, іди нахуй!
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 19:51, Thomas Eckhardt <
> >>> huebschraeuber at protonmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Martin Dietze: "a peaceful country".
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Total conflict-related casualties in Ukraine in 2014-2021
> >>> >
> >>> > OHCHR estimates the total number of conflict-related casualties in
> >>> > Ukraine from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021 to be 51,000–54,0008:
> >>> > 14,200-14,400 killed (at least 3,404 civilians, estimated 4,400
> >>> > Ukrainian forces, and estimated 6,500 members of armed groups), and
> >>> > 37-39,000 injured (7,000–9,000 civilians, 13,800–14,200
> >>> > Ukrainian forces and 15,800-16,200 members of armed groups."
> >>> >
> >>> > "Civilian casualties caused by active hostilities in 2018-2021, per
> >>> > territory."
> >>> >
> >>> > In territory controlled by the self-proclaimed 'republics':
> >>> >
> >>> > 81.4 per cent
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Martin Dietze: "Anti semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very
> >>> > low level compared to neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The
> >>> > author does not seem to know about this, hence he feels ambivalent
> >>> about
> >>> > Ukraine."
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >  From the noted Russian propaganda outlet Haaretz:
> >>> >
> >>> > "'Clear the Kikes From Ukraine!' Who Will Confront Kiev's Spiraling
> >>> > anti-Semitism Problem?
> >>> >
> >>> > When the same vicious anti-Semitism is voiced by a far right militia
> >>> > leader and a Ukrainian diplomat, it's a sign how deeply Jew-hatred,
> and
> >>> > hyper-nationalist Holocaust revisionism are contaminating Ukrainian
> >>> > society and politics"
> >>> >
> >>> > "[A Ukrainian diplomat] went on to write: 'My God: Punish kikes,' and
> >>> > 'Babi Yar. Not kikes in 1941, but Ukrainians from 1918-1941 were
> killed
> >>> > here.' And: 'The Jews declared war against Germany back in March
> 1934,'
> >>> > and 'Death to anti-fascists.'
> >>> >
> >>> > His flagrant anti-Semitism is not an isolated example. That is
> clearer
> >>> > than ever reading the 23-page report on anti-Semitic incidents in
> >>> > Ukraine over the past year prepared by the United Jewish Community of
> >>> > Ukraine, the country’s Jewish community representative organization.
> >>> >
> >>> > The report’s depressing findings show that anti-Semitic tendencies
> are
> >>> > widespread across the right-wing political spectrum, among
> politicians
> >>> > of different party affiliations."
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-clear-the-kikes-from-ukraine-who-will-confront-kiev-s-anti-semitism-problem-1.7910931
> >>> >
> >>> > The report by the United Jewish Community of Ukraine:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://jew.org.ua/images/pdf/Report%20Anti-Semitism%20in%20Ukraine%202018%20(UJCU%20REPORT).pdf
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "How perfectly this fits into Rusian propaganda."
> >>> >
> >>> > A good article on Ukraine's Nazi problem from another noted Russian
> >>> > propaganda outlet:
> >>> >
> >>> > "In recent months, Ukraine has experienced a wave of unchecked
> >>> > vigilantism. Institute Respublica, a local pro-democracy NGO,
> reported
> >>> > that activists are frequently harassed by vigilantes when holding
> legal
> >>> > meetings or rallies related to politically-controversial positions,
> >>> such
> >>> > as the promotion of LGBT rights or opposition to the war. Azov and
> >>> other
> >>> > militias have attacked anti-fascist demonstrations, city council
> >>> > meetings, media outlets, art exhibitions, foreign students and Roma."
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > The ten commandments of propaganda apply to both sides:
> >>> >
> >>> > We do not want war.
> >>> > The enemy alone is to be blamed for the war.
> >>> > The enemy is inherently evil, resembling the devil.
> >>> > We defend a noble cause, not our own interest.
> >>> > The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary.
> >>> > The enemy uses illegal weapons.
> >>> > We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
> >>> > Artists and intellectuals back our cause.
> >>> > Our cause is holy, it has a sacred character.
> >>> > Whoever doubts our propaganda, is a traitor.
> >>> >
> >>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Morelli
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ------- Original Message -------
> >>> > Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> schrieb am Dienstag, 8. März 2022
> um
> >>> > 21:49:
> >>> >
> >>> >   > A rather subjective view, widely clueless about anti semitism in
> >>> the
> >>> > whole of the east slavic world, both historically and today. Anti
> >>> > semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very low level compared
> to
> >>> > neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The author does not seem to
> >>> > know about this, hence he feels ambivalent about Ukraine. How
> perfectly
> >>> > this fits into Russian propaganda. And how damaging it is for a
> >>> peaceful
> >>> > country invaded and systematically destroyed by an imperial-minded,
> >>> > blood-thirsty dicatorship. And how unsurprising that people who have
> >>> > "always known" about Ukraine as a country with a "nazi problem" now
> >>> > share this stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dr. Martin Dietze
> >>> [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/]
> >>> 1. Vorsitzender
> >>> Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
> >>> [http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/]
> >>> --
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> >>>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Martin Dietze
> > [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/]
> > 1. Vorsitzender
> > Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
> > [http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/]
> >
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