Germany, experts on Nazism as they say here, tell Russia to fuck off and speak the truth many couldn't see.

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 20:54:06 UTC 2022


Anybody who isn't sick isn't .......FILL IN THE WORD...
....my sleep has been broken for two weeks...(time of some of my posts an
indicator...)

I try concentrating on Pynchon and other "work" for my upcoming
classes......

But then there is the news and the images....

Keeping to my vow to myself for self-care, LOL, as they call it and a word
Pynchon would have fun with (and probably did in BE)



On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 3:10 PM Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:

> Something else for Thomas to take a look at:
> https://twitter.com/stefsiohan/status/1501621715897655301/photo/1
>
> I could reply to every single point of his pointless "proofs", but,
> honestly, I am just too sick for this shit.
>
> Have fun translating what I wrote in Ukrainian in my previous reply.
> Little hint: there's a bit of a citation in it. That episode cost 13 border
> guards their lives.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:04, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell>
>> Tristan Snell
>> @TristanSnell
>> <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell>
>> ·
>> 2h <https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1501611041372971012>
>> Putin just bombed a children’s and maternity hospital in Mariupol,
>> Ukraine, literally murdering mothers and newborn babies.
>>
>>
>> Look at all the violence Ukraine causes.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:08 PM Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So you can see what Russia has done.
>>> Just do stop sharing bullshit.
>>> Better watch some movie, you'll enjoy it:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVQrJ5-ap1c&t=2s
>>> And if you still don't get it - Німецький вертоліт, іди нахуй!
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 19:51, Thomas Eckhardt <
>>> huebschraeuber at protonmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Martin Dietze: "a peaceful country".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Total conflict-related casualties in Ukraine in 2014-2021
>>> >
>>> > OHCHR estimates the total number of conflict-related casualties in
>>> > Ukraine from 14 April 2014 to 31 December 2021 to be 51,000–54,0008:
>>> > 14,200-14,400 killed (at least 3,404 civilians, estimated 4,400
>>> > Ukrainian forces, and estimated 6,500 members of armed groups), and
>>> > 37-39,000 injured (7,000–9,000 civilians, 13,800–14,200
>>> > Ukrainian forces and 15,800-16,200 members of armed groups."
>>> >
>>> > "Civilian casualties caused by active hostilities in 2018-2021, per
>>> > territory."
>>> >
>>> > In territory controlled by the self-proclaimed 'republics':
>>> >
>>> > 81.4 per cent
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Martin Dietze: "Anti semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very
>>> > low level compared to neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The
>>> > author does not seem to know about this, hence he feels ambivalent
>>> about
>>> > Ukraine."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  From the noted Russian propaganda outlet Haaretz:
>>> >
>>> > "'Clear the Kikes From Ukraine!' Who Will Confront Kiev's Spiraling
>>> > anti-Semitism Problem?
>>> >
>>> > When the same vicious anti-Semitism is voiced by a far right militia
>>> > leader and a Ukrainian diplomat, it's a sign how deeply Jew-hatred, and
>>> > hyper-nationalist Holocaust revisionism are contaminating Ukrainian
>>> > society and politics"
>>> >
>>> > "[A Ukrainian diplomat] went on to write: 'My God: Punish kikes,' and
>>> > 'Babi Yar. Not kikes in 1941, but Ukrainians from 1918-1941 were killed
>>> > here.' And: 'The Jews declared war against Germany back in March 1934,'
>>> > and 'Death to anti-fascists.'
>>> >
>>> > His flagrant anti-Semitism is not an isolated example. That is clearer
>>> > than ever reading the 23-page report on anti-Semitic incidents in
>>> > Ukraine over the past year prepared by the United Jewish Community of
>>> > Ukraine, the country’s Jewish community representative organization.
>>> >
>>> > The report’s depressing findings show that anti-Semitic tendencies are
>>> > widespread across the right-wing political spectrum, among politicians
>>> > of different party affiliations."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-clear-the-kikes-from-ukraine-who-will-confront-kiev-s-anti-semitism-problem-1.7910931
>>> >
>>> > The report by the United Jewish Community of Ukraine:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://jew.org.ua/images/pdf/Report%20Anti-Semitism%20in%20Ukraine%202018%20(UJCU%20REPORT).pdf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "How perfectly this fits into Rusian propaganda."
>>> >
>>> > A good article on Ukraine's Nazi problem from another noted Russian
>>> > propaganda outlet:
>>> >
>>> > "In recent months, Ukraine has experienced a wave of unchecked
>>> > vigilantism. Institute Respublica, a local pro-democracy NGO, reported
>>> > that activists are frequently harassed by vigilantes when holding legal
>>> > meetings or rallies related to politically-controversial positions,
>>> such
>>> > as the promotion of LGBT rights or opposition to the war. Azov and
>>> other
>>> > militias have attacked anti-fascist demonstrations, city council
>>> > meetings, media outlets, art exhibitions, foreign students and Roma."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The ten commandments of propaganda apply to both sides:
>>> >
>>> > We do not want war.
>>> > The enemy alone is to be blamed for the war.
>>> > The enemy is inherently evil, resembling the devil.
>>> > We defend a noble cause, not our own interest.
>>> > The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary.
>>> > The enemy uses illegal weapons.
>>> > We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
>>> > Artists and intellectuals back our cause.
>>> > Our cause is holy, it has a sacred character.
>>> > Whoever doubts our propaganda, is a traitor.
>>> >
>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Morelli
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------- Original Message -------
>>> > Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> schrieb am Dienstag, 8. März 2022 um
>>> > 21:49:
>>> >
>>> >   > A rather subjective view, widely clueless about anti semitism in
>>> the
>>> > whole of the east slavic world, both historically and today. Anti
>>> > semitism in modern Ukraine is actually at a very low level compared to
>>> > neighbouring states, first of all Russia. The author does not seem to
>>> > know about this, hence he feels ambivalent about Ukraine. How perfectly
>>> > this fits into Russian propaganda. And how damaging it is for a
>>> peaceful
>>> > country invaded and systematically destroyed by an imperial-minded,
>>> > blood-thirsty dicatorship. And how unsurprising that people who have
>>> > "always known" about Ukraine as a country with a "nazi problem" now
>>> > share this stuff.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Martin Dietze
>>> [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/]
>>> 1. Vorsitzender
>>> Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
>>> [http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/]
>>> --
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>>>
>>
>
> --
> Dr. Martin Dietze
> [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/]
> 1. Vorsitzender
> Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
> [http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/]
>


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