Re: “Russia is trying to get the Ukraine to come to its senses.”

Arthur Fuller fuller.artful at gmail.com
Mon Oct 3 16:27:22 UTC 2022


Well stated, Mark.

As a Canadian, and also a Métis, I have a few issues with my nation, but
these do not include persons such as Stalin and Lenin.  Fortunately we have
not suffered persons quite so bad; we have had our share of bad persons,
such as John A. MacDonald and a few others.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 5:13 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> He is the stereotype of What Aboutism?...Yo mama too, as if any of us who
> condemn Russia must THEREFORE believe
> that everything the US has done we agree with, justify, support and believe
> in.
>
> He is contextless in spades. His lack of belief in international law means
> he has no grounds but his own biases to judge
> the actions of the US or any other countries....
>
> And, as if the bad shit one administration does, which we all condemn means
> every other administration, including the current
> one, which courageously brought US soldiers out of the Middle East and
> carefully, totally, thoroughly is working within international
> law with all the nations of the UN re the Russian invasion, the most number
> of them in its history which has ever condemned one nation for its
> war-making....
>
> That your hatred of America's sins means you support Russia is
> cra-cra.....that's Joseph.
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 6:22 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why must you always make everything about “us” 🇺🇸?
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 3:45 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Whereas you are so profoundly calm and reasonable  and carefully
> > > tentative, and well armed with friendly logical arguments that only
> sound
> > > like childish insults.
> > >
> > > As to the use of force, the Russians have beahaved with kid gloves
> > > compared to US Shock and Awe. Which had nothing to do with 'might makes
> > > right' or geopolitically motivated mass murder.  What could be kinder
> and
> > > more democratic than depleted uranium? And look at what we have done
> for
> > > Yemen, for Palestinians, for Afghanistan and Syria and so many others.
> > See
> > > how democracy and human rights bloom wherever we go.
> > >
> > > On Sep 30, 2022, at 1:29 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:13 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > > [JoeyT) rejects  EVERYTHING involved in International Law
> […]...Joseph's
> > >> foreign policy frame is the fiercest of force...of might makes
> > >> right....combined with a total hatred of the might of the US, no
> matter
> > >> what it does.....
> > >>
> > > There’s a character in Flannery O’Connor’s *Wise Blood*, that walks
> > > around with rocks in his shoes. *Joey T* reminds me of him.  He seems
> to
> > > have a harsh religious fervor, punishingly certain.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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-- 
Arthur


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