NOT P just proof it was not NATO ever.

[Ian Livingston]

Yes, David, I agree with you. I still think NATO represented less a reason
for an invasion than an excuse. Like avoiding my sister-in-law because her
passive aggressive husband annoys me. I wouldn't press a divorce, say,
unless the husband started interfering with my business.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:21 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ian,
>
> Your memory is too forgiving. There were plenty of people actively denying
> the reality of Putin‘s imperialism, his empire dreams. And the only reason
> he’s failed this time, is because of hubris.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:45 AM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I suspect a minority of thinking people actually believed NATO was a
>> primary reason. Maybe a corollary threat via increasing trade and
>> political
>> alignment with the EU. NATO is more a passive aggressor, like my
>> sister-in-law's husband.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 4:24 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/
>> > --
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