Ukraine

[Mark Kohut]

.."offering his country to war and wall street".....better Putin take it,
then take Poland and the Baltics. (expressed by him, his
advisors, his influencers and "philosophical inspirations".....like the
Head of the Russian Church Z banned...HAVE YOU READ HIM????
then he takes Berlin.....

yeah, no war ever would really saves lives.....

Crazed....the purity of your anti-war fundamentalism is the
secular equivalent of the fundamentalist religion you grew up in--and
rejected.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:51 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Off topic? Off what topic? I didn’t start this thread. Also I never
> complained about anything. I said you are a bore who has not shown evidence
> of your claimed insights about Ukraine. As to your claimed concern about
> Ukrainian suffering, the ideas you support are directly responsible for
> what has happened, just as I warned a year ago and continue to war about
> what is going to happen if Zelensky doesn’t stop offering his country to
> war and wall street. I have no power but as one of many voices who do not
> accept US Ukrainian propaganda about innocence and unprovoked aggression. I
> am an observer who sees things quite differenty, reads widely and has
> listened to all sides. I pay no war taxes and will never do so or fight for
> any army. Other people believe in war and that is just the way things are.
> I don’t. But neither do I regard your claims as valid. There is no point in
> further discussion with you because you are repeating shit I've heard for
> over a year.
>
>  Off fucking topic ? When is the last time you said anything about the
> novels of Thomas Pynchon? Never in my memory. Maybe somewhere way back in
> the Pynchon archives but never in my memory.
>
> So since you are not getting the picture, this is my sign off to you
> Dietze, your emails will be going in the trash. I will say whatever I want
> on the list and anywhere else and manage without your thoughts just fine.
>
> > On Feb 13, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 16:18, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net <mailto:
> brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
> > Not everyone, even on the list. I am in touch with list members who are
> sick of being targeted by the bullies on the list  (who never seems to have
> anything to say about Pynchon), and these members no longer participate but
> listen in.
> >     Cool? There is nothing cool or informed by special knowledge about
> your ideas Dietze. But repetition is boring, and you excel at it. I said my
> piece, retract nothing, am sad to watch this war escalate and more die for
> territory that will never be regained, but I  have better things to do than
> argue with you.
> >
> > If you have better things to do, why do you post off-topic stuff and
> then complain when others react (reply) to it?
> >
> > And just in case you forgot about this when studying all your
> "alternative media" outlets: There are real people shot at, bombed, raped
> and robbed. The stuff you have been posting here for months is not
> harmless. Hence you will get reactions. Don't put the blame on people
> defending themselves - not in Ukraine, not here.
> >
> > And re your addressing me as "Dietze". Not being a native speaker I
> still get the impression that you're being rather offensive here. This fits
> well. Unfortunately.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Martin Dietze
> > [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/ <https://www.martins-braindumps.de/
> >]
> >
> > 1. Vorsitzender - Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
> > Голова - Німецько-Українське Товариство Культури
> > [http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/ <
> http://www.deutsch-ukrainischer-kulturverein.de/>]
> >
> > Redakteur / Редактор - Karpaty Lviv Nachrichten
> > [https://karpaty-lviv-nachrichten.com <
> https://karpaty-lviv-nachrichten.com/>]
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