Ukraine

[Mark Kohut]

Putin is the Nazi-like Hitler who--I think you agree ---but not
sure---needed fought....would
you have gone to war against him?

Anyway, it doesn't matter......now your ranting just makes one sad....

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 4:51 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Off topic? Off what topic? I didn’t start this thread. Also I never
> complained about anything. I said you are a bore who has not shown evidence
> of your claimed insights about Ukraine. As to your claimed concern about
> Ukrainian suffering, the ideas you support are directly responsible for
> what has happened, just as I warned a year ago and continue to war about
> what is going to happen if Zelensky doesn’t stop offering his country to
> war and wall street. I have no power but as one of many voices who do not
> accept US Ukrainian propaganda about innocence and unprovoked aggression. I
> am an observer who sees things quite differenty, reads widely and has
> listened to all sides. I pay no war taxes and will never do so or fight for
> any army. Other people believe in war and that is just the way things are.
> I don’t. But neither do I regard your claims as valid. There is no point in
> further discussion with you because you are repeating shit I've heard for
> over a year.
>
>  Off fucking topic ? When is the last time you said anything about the
> novels of Thomas Pynchon? Never in my memory. Maybe somewhere way back in
> the Pynchon archives but never in my memory.
>
> So since you are not getting the picture, this is my sign off to you
> Dietze, your emails will be going in the trash. I will say whatever I want
> on the list and anywhere else and manage without your thoughts just fine.
>
> > On Feb 13, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Martin Dietze <mdietze at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 16:18, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net <mailto:
> brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
> > Not everyone, even on the list. I am in touch with list members who are
> sick of being targeted by the bullies on the list  (who never seems to have
> anything to say about Pynchon), and these members no longer participate but
> listen in.
> >     Cool? There is nothing cool or informed by special knowledge about
> your ideas Dietze. But repetition is boring, and you excel at it. I said my
> piece, retract nothing, am sad to watch this war escalate and more die for
> territory that will never be regained, but I  have better things to do than
> argue with you.
> >
> > If you have better things to do, why do you post off-topic stuff and
> then complain when others react (reply) to it?
> >
> > And just in case you forgot about this when studying all your
> "alternative media" outlets: There are real people shot at, bombed, raped
> and robbed. The stuff you have been posting here for months is not
> harmless. Hence you will get reactions. Don't put the blame on people
> defending themselves - not in Ukraine, not here.
> >
> > And re your addressing me as "Dietze". Not being a native speaker I
> still get the impression that you're being rather offensive here. This fits
> well. Unfortunately.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Martin Dietze
> > [https://www.martins-braindumps.de/ <https://www.martins-braindumps.de/
> >]
> >
> > 1. Vorsitzender - Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
> > Голова - Німецько-Українське Товариство Культури
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> >
> > Redakteur / Редактор - Karpaty Lviv Nachrichten
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