AW: Re: Not P just Putin & nukes....

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Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> schrieb am Sonntag, 26. März 2023 um 11:56:


> Lots of folks have tried to invade Russia. Hitler for example. Things did
> not go well on that adventure.

This may be of interest:

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/apocalypse-operation-barbarossa

Also: Russia (not: Putin) placing nukes in Belarus is, once again, not an aggressive action but a reaction (see also "the annexation of Crimea"). In this case, explicitly a reaction to the announcement of the UK to deliver DU munition to the Ukrainians. One does not have to agree with Russia's decision, but one has to acknowledge the reasons explicitly given. Not doing so is propaganda.

But perhaps there is an argument to be made that giving DU munition to Ukraine is the right thing to do (e.g. poisoning bread all around the world helps to combat overpopulation)? 

Just like supporting admirers of the  Dirlewanger Brigade is apparently now the right thing to do?

Says this often quoted NATO propagandist:

"While I am happy about the liberation of Kherson, wearing the SS Dirlewanger Brigade patch is not a good look."

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1591244936032423936

Wiki:

"During the organization's time in the Soviet Union, Dirlewanger's unit burned women and children alive, let packs of starved dogs feed on them, and injected Jews with strychnine. Transcripts of the Nuremberg trials show Soviet prosecutors frequently questioning defendants accused of war crimes on the Eastern Front about their knowledge of the Dirlewanger Brigade."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade

This is only a small part of it. I seem to remember that the almost unwatchable movie "Come and See" was based on the atrocities committed by the Dirlewanger Brigade. 

Indeed, "not a good look."

Some more propaganda for the Dirlewanger Brigade may be found at the Guardian and Vanity Fair:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/ukraine-women-fighting-frontline

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2015/02/women-soldiers-ukraine-photos

Look for "Anaconda" and the van in the background.

Yes, this is the Guardian and Vanity Fair promoting the Dirlewanger Brigade (and the Nazi slogan "1488").

The heated exchange about the events in Ukraine is not really NP in my view. I think that all of this may with good reason be seen as related to GR: The instrumentalisation of Nazis for US geopolitical objectives, I would argue, is one of the central, if mostly implicit topics of the novel -  just don't think "Project Paperclip", think "Operation Aerodynamic". The novel is also about how these utterly cynical geopolitical machinations could bring about thermonuclear apocalypse.