Not P just Putin & nukes....

rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 14:16:12 UTC 2023


Whatever one's take on the Ukraine war, one does get a sense of the scale
of global connections, corporate and otherwise, in weapons/logistical
systems that keep the Ukraine war (and other wars) humming. I think we'd
all be surprised by those connected to the War,as described in GR.

rich


On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:01 PM Hübschräuber via Pynchon-l <
pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:

> ------- Original Message -------
> Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> schrieb am Sonntag, 26. März 2023
> um 11:56:
>
>
> > Lots of folks have tried to invade Russia. Hitler for example. Things did
> > not go well on that adventure.
>
> This may be of interest:
>
> https://bigserge.substack.com/p/apocalypse-operation-barbarossa
>
> Also: Russia (not: Putin) placing nukes in Belarus is, once again, not an
> aggressive action but a reaction (see also "the annexation of Crimea"). In
> this case, explicitly a reaction to the announcement of the UK to deliver
> DU munition to the Ukrainians. One does not have to agree with Russia's
> decision, but one has to acknowledge the reasons explicitly given. Not
> doing so is propaganda.
>
> But perhaps there is an argument to be made that giving DU munition to
> Ukraine is the right thing to do (e.g. poisoning bread all around the world
> helps to combat overpopulation)?
>
> Just like supporting admirers of the  Dirlewanger Brigade is apparently
> now the right thing to do?
>
> Says this often quoted NATO propagandist:
>
> "While I am happy about the liberation of Kherson, wearing the SS
> Dirlewanger Brigade patch is not a good look."
>
> https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1591244936032423936
>
> Wiki:
>
> "During the organization's time in the Soviet Union, Dirlewanger's unit
> burned women and children alive, let packs of starved dogs feed on them,
> and injected Jews with strychnine. Transcripts of the Nuremberg trials show
> Soviet prosecutors frequently questioning defendants accused of war crimes
> on the Eastern Front about their knowledge of the Dirlewanger Brigade."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade
>
> This is only a small part of it. I seem to remember that the almost
> unwatchable movie "Come and See" was based on the atrocities committed by
> the Dirlewanger Brigade.
>
> Indeed, "not a good look."
>
> Some more propaganda for the Dirlewanger Brigade may be found at the
> Guardian and Vanity Fair:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/ukraine-women-fighting-frontline
>
>
> https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2015/02/women-soldiers-ukraine-photos
>
> Look for "Anaconda" and the van in the background.
>
> Yes, this is the Guardian and Vanity Fair promoting the Dirlewanger
> Brigade (and the Nazi slogan "1488").
>
> The heated exchange about the events in Ukraine is not really NP in my
> view. I think that all of this may with good reason be seen as related to
> GR: The instrumentalisation of Nazis for US geopolitical objectives, I
> would argue, is one of the central, if mostly implicit topics of the novel
> -  just don't think "Project Paperclip", think "Operation Aerodynamic". The
> novel is also about how these utterly cynical geopolitical machinations
> could bring about thermonuclear apocalypse.
>
>
>
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