Not P but Moby-Dick (16)

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Fri Sep 29 20:20:38 UTC 2023


I can't be moved because it means we all are moved....man in general has
this battened down...

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 4:12 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So he is saying:"you cannot swerve me, and if you try, you will swerve
> yourselves instead." Is that correct?
>
> Also, I'm still not quite sure what "man has ye there" means. Is he saying
> that man is greater in this respect than ye great gods?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:55 AM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In order to change Ahab's course, any that come to deter him from his
> > "fixed idea" will suffer the consequence of their attempts. The economic
> > force of history determined with the advent of capitalism cannot be
> > deterred (swerved off its course) without destroying whole populations.
> > Melville at his most prophetic.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 8:52 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also from Chapter 37:
> >>
> >> No, ye’ve knocked me down, and I am up again; but ye have run and
> hidden.
> >> Come forth from behind your cotton bags! I have no long gun to reach ye.
> >> Come, Ahab’s compliments to ye; come and see if ye can swerve me. Swerve
> >> me? ye cannot swerve me, else ye swerve yourselves! man has ye there.
> >>
> >> What does "ye cannot swerve me, else ye swerve yourselves" mean? And
> what
> >> is "man has ye there"?
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