Not P but Moby-Dick (95) / CoL49 GR

Mon Apr 1 07:44:28 UTC 2024

Andrew Dinn (I pictured a Scot, “Andrew” y’know, so it wasn’t much of a
leap from that to “McTavish”) took a prominent part in the 1996 GRGR

https://waste.org/pipermail/pynchon-l/1996-September/006628.html

A-and -
David, imho you’re right on target about the ingredients for a great group
read.

You were there, I wasn’t.
I haven’t read the archive sequentially, either, just dipped in.

 Andrew Dinn has seemed consistently impressive to me, but there are lots
of other good postings & posters too, tho’, over the years…a group read of
the archives, anyone? - just kidding (although…nah, not this year, I
guess)(‘twould be a foolish pleasure)

Anyone willing to give CoL49 a try has my respect.
Thank you, JK van Nort!

As a perk, I think you will, at the very least, get naming rights for the
read, & the undying gratitude of your fellow p-listers.

Also our co-operation and encouragement! (One speaks for oneself, but hopes
for agreement)

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:19 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> “GRGR” (Group Read Gravity’s Rainbow) or “MDMD” are the search words for
> the archives. No McTavish bloke.
>
> The first task is to establish a reading schedule:  weekly (or biweekly)
> dates to start discussion of specified pages/sections.  *Someone* has to
> list, pages and dates, and then post this schedule online asking for:
>
> A) agreement with the schedule
> B) volunteers for specific section “hosting”
>
> Hosting isn’t absolutely required, but highly recommended. I host with
> start discussion with a brief synopsis of what happened in the section, and
> then possibly Suggested discussion questions.
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:55 PM Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There was one group read leader in particular, back in the ‘90s, who imho
>> set a gold standard.
>>
>> David Morris probably remembers his name?
>>
>> It was like, Dr McTavish or something
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 6:50 AM J K Van Nort <jkvannort at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I’m game, but I’ve never participated in an online reading. I’ll go to
>> the
>> > archives and see how others have been led. Any suggestions would be
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> > <
>> https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_
>> >
>
>
>> >
>> > On Saturday, March 30, 2024, 18:37, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Jemmy!....Yay!....Welcome back......"Get Back, Get back, get back to
>> where
>> > you once belonged"....Can you lead us out of the wilderness of
>> > our narcissistic musings? (not the Moby workers)
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI8Aw0IGM1I
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 5:54 PM Michael Bailey <
>> > michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jemmy, JK, delighted to hear from you!
>> > >
>> > > Several of us would be interested in a CoL49 group read. What we lack
>> is
>> > > someone willing to take a leadership role: promulgate a rota and, you
>> > know,
>> > > keep it rolling.
>> > >
>> > > Are you up for it?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 8:35 AM Jemmy Bloocher <jbloocher at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi JK
>> > > >
>> > > > I’ve been on the list for decades by this point, but rarely message
>> > > > (though I read most emails).
>> > > > If this is the case then that would  be great. This also gives me
>> the
>> > > > opportunity to excitedly share that my 16 year old shared with me
>> that
>> > > the
>> > > > just finished CoL49 and loved it.
>> > > > I’ve copied her in maybe she can join the list.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jemmy B
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat 30. Mar 2024 at 13:27, J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
>> > > > pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hello,
>> > > >> I’m new to the list serve but not to Pynchon. I noticed in the
>> > archives
>> > > >> that people were considering a reading of CoL49. Are you still
>> > > considering
>> > > >> doing that? I would love to join if you do. I have read every
>> Pynchon
>> > > novel
>> > > >> & SL  at least four times.
>> > > >> Sorry to post on this thread, but I can’t post on the new pad
>> thread.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024, 05:13, Michael Bailey <
>> > > >> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Context suggests it’s himself
>> > > >>
>> > > >> “I know the way to act with you: defiance. You’re going to be cruel
>> > even
>> > > >> if
>> > > >> I offer love & reverence. If you choose to punish my defiance, all
>> you
>> > > can
>> > > >> do is kill me - and what the heck, everyone is going to die anyway.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> “I’m not fearless out of foolishness or ignorance - I know (“own” -
>> > > >> archaic
>> > > >> usage) how powerful you are, but I will defy you to my last gasp”
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 12:10 AM Mike Jing <
>> > > gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > From Chapter 119:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > “Oh! thou clear spirit of clear fire, whom on these seas I as
>> > Persian
>> > > >> once
>> > > >> > did worship, till in the sacramental act so burned by thee, that
>> to
>> > > this
>> > > >> > hour I bear the scar; I now know thee, thou clear spirit, and I
>> now
>> > > know
>> > > >> > that thy right worship is defiance. To neither love nor reverence
>> > wilt
>> > > >> thou
>> > > >> > be kind; and e’en for hate thou canst but kill; and all are
>> killed.
>> > No
>> > > >> > fearless fool now fronts thee. I own thy speechless, placeless
>> > power;
>> > > >> but
>> > > >> > to the last gasp of my earthquake life will dispute its
>> > unconditional,
>> > > >> > unintegral mastery in me.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > In "No fearless fool now fronts thee", is Ahab talking talking
>> about
>> > > >> > himself, i.e. "I am no fearless fool", or is he making a general
>> > > >> statement,
>> > > >> > meaning there is no one fearless and foolish enough to confront
>> the
>> > > >> spirit?
>> > > >> > --
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