Not P but Moby-Dick (70)

O G octogonalyoyo at gmail.com
Fri Feb 16 19:08:29 UTC 2024


Ah.  The mother.  The things we do, right?   Yes, it's the perimeter.  If
you'll permit me, I do tend to go round and round with mine.

But speaking of orbits, and circling around, as the vapor of profound
thoughts was rising from my skull, yesterday around teatime, as a
rainbowbolt it illumined me that Ishmael, in that passage on the Denial of
the Divine, must be saying Jupiter is something between Plato and the
Devil, not a planet, but something of an elliptical nature, say, with Plato
and the Devil as the foci.

As Napoleon said as he emerged the next day from a night alone in the
King's Chamber, "I could tell you, but you wouldn't believe me."



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> Hmm -
> If Jupiter isn?t a planet, then what is it?
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> If Chinese AI gains a better understanding of public domain Moby-Dick, or
> in previous interactions, of the illustrious writings of Mr Pynchon**, it
> could only help -
>
> Or if Mike Jing is a dude* - just covering the possibilities - ie, he?s
> never said either that he was or wasn?t - simply being reticent with
> personal data (eg - did the GR & AtD xlations meet with a friendly
> reception from publisher?***As of yet, no word volunteered, but one hopes
> it went well)
>
>
>
> In the spirit of disclosing moderately personal info, I?ll volunteer that I
> also like to drink tea.
>
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> * If so, he?s living the dream - maybe someday I?ll get around to doing a
> new translation of _Journey to the West_ & hope to find a friendly Chinese
> listserv?(goals)
>
> ** one would hope the AtD & GR efforts were sanctioned by the original
> author and would generate royalties for him and his tribe (May they
> increase!)
>
> Per Wikipedia -
> *China has acceded to the major international conventions on protection of
> rights to intellectual property*. Domestically, protection of intellectual
> property law has also been established by government legislation,
> administrative regulations, and decrees in the areas of trademark,
> copyright, and patent.
>
> - it didn?t occur to me to question this w/r/t the GR & AtD questions,
> because each individual cite was well within fair usage ? also I enjoyed
> the attention to actual Pynchon text, which, umm, in this group
> is?ummm?yes, highly valued.
>
> But would I be greeted with similar co-operation if I tried to gain Chinese
> assistance with a new English translation of _The Three Body Problem_?
>
> Anyhoo - weepers, that Moby-Dick is a heckuva book, isn?t it?
>
> *** oh, wait, way back I think Mike posted that he was translating GR for
> his mother, which would be non-commercial, right?
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