CoL49 Ch5 third section Weekly Reading

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Mon Jul 15 22:07:15 UTC 2024


The dead man, Pierce...   "Like" (equals?).....Maxwell's Demon....????

'linking features in a coincidence'....

So, the coincidence is OED meeting Jesus A again?

So, is the coincidental meeting between them different from when she met
him with Pierce because
the sorting of information from higher to lower is the transmission of
Pierce [associations; money? ] toward
entropy?....
.....transmission of Pierce's higher level robber baron self toward
entropy?

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 5:27 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> That seems like a plenty sufficient explanation to me.
>
> > On Jul 15, 2024, at 4:29 PM, J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
> >
> > Pierce, the dead man, obviously connects Oed and Jesus, but Maxwell’s
> Demon sorts information, connecting the higher pressure chamber with the
> lower pressure chamber, moving faster moving molecules together and slower
> moving molecules together.
> >
> > The coincidence is their meeting again, but besides being part of her
> quest to understand his will and the Tristero, I don’t see how he links the
> coincidence, except that Pierce is why Jesus recognizes Oed when she walks
> into the restaurant.
> >
> > Just an inconclusive brainstorm.
> >
> > In solidarity,
> > James
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Monday, July 15, 2024, 16:08, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a question. This Chapter 5, p. 98...What does this mean?
> > 'The dead man, like Maxwell's Demon, was the linking feature in a
> coincidence"
> > ??????
> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 4:32 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > JK: How does Hilarius' explanation of LSD and blending of individuals
> into one compare with Oedipa's efforts to understand W.A.S.T.E.?
> >
> > No idea....all individuals merging int sounds like another bat-shit
> idea....
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 12:41 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Q: Although she learns much about W.A.S.T.E., Oed leaves the Bay area
> without finding a source or definitive W.A.S.T.E. facility beyond the bin
> and the currier's route.
> >
> > Trystero has no location, definitive or less than. That is part of its
> connection to the anarchistic incursion into history....
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:08 AM J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the delay. I'm taking up the hosting for the week.
> >
> > Summary:After helping the sailor up the stairs and onto his "Viking
> funeral" bed, Oed gives him money and takes his letter to mail. She heads
> down under the freeway where she eventually finds a trash can labeled
> W.A.S.T.E. She hovers and watches until a young man drops in a bundle. She
> puts the letter inside and returns to her observation point until a young
> wino gathers the contents. She follows him and his successor whom he hands
> the bag off. She follows this wino as he delivers around Oakland.
> Eventually she returns to her hotel, where the deaf-mute association is
> having a silent dance where every dancing pair dances to their own music.
> She is waltzed around the room until the synonymous break, when she flees
> to her room. After sleeping she drives the Impala down to Kinneret,
> deciding to visit Dr. Hilarius, who takes pock shots at her as she enters.
> His assistant lets her into the office, where she learns that Hilarius has
> a psychic breakdown, believing the Israeli's are after him. She tries to
> talk him down from the precipice, but he considers her to be an enemy. He
> relates his history as a psychiatrist in the Nazi death camp, Buchenwald.
> He was in charge of 'faces' that would have psychotic effects on the Jewish
> prisoners. He describes one face that can create immediate and irreparable
> psychic damage,  which he used on one Zvi. The sirens of the police can be
> heard, and Hilarius pulls Oed into his office, where he tells her the
> details, including his efforts to pay 'penance' by attempting to become a
> believer of Freud.
> >
> > Questions:
> > Although she learns much about W.A.S.T.E., Oed leaves the Bay area
> without finding a source or definitive W.A.S.T.E. facility beyond the bin
> and the currier's route. Why does she think that Dr Hilarius will help her?
> >
> > How does Hilarius' crimes in Buchenwald move the plot forward or help to
> understand either character?
> >
> > Is Oedipa Jewish? How does her response to Hilarius' revelations expand
> her character?
> >
> > How does Hilarius' explanation of LSD and blending of individuals into
> one compare with Oedipa's efforts to understand W.A.S.T.E.?
> >
> > In solidarity,
> > James
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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