CoL49 Ch5 third section Weekly Reading

[Mark Kohut]

So,  I may be seeing---reading---TRP tell us robber baron $$$ are
dissipating....moving toward entropy as
this book's America unfolds?..........

"the dead man, like Maxwell's Demon"

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 6:07 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> The dead man, Pierce...   "Like" (equals?).....Maxwell's Demon....????
>
> 'linking features in a coincidence'....
>
> So, the coincidence is OED meeting Jesus A again?
>
> So, is the coincidental meeting between them different from when she met
> him with Pierce because
> the sorting of information from higher to lower is the transmission of
> Pierce [associations; money? ] toward
> entropy?....
> .....transmission of Pierce's higher level robber baron self toward
> entropy?
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 5:27 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> That seems like a plenty sufficient explanation to me.
>>
>> > On Jul 15, 2024, at 4:29 PM, J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
>> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Pierce, the dead man, obviously connects Oed and Jesus, but Maxwell’s
>> Demon sorts information, connecting the higher pressure chamber with the
>> lower pressure chamber, moving faster moving molecules together and slower
>> moving molecules together.
>> >
>> > The coincidence is their meeting again, but besides being part of her
>> quest to understand his will and the Tristero, I don’t see how he links the
>> coincidence, except that Pierce is why Jesus recognizes Oed when she walks
>> into the restaurant.
>> >
>> > Just an inconclusive brainstorm.
>> >
>> > In solidarity,
>> > James
>> >
>> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> >
>> >
>> > On Monday, July 15, 2024, 16:08, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a question. This Chapter 5, p. 98...What does this mean?
>> > 'The dead man, like Maxwell's Demon, was the linking feature in a
>> coincidence"
>> > ??????
>> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 4:32 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > JK: How does Hilarius' explanation of LSD and blending of individuals
>> into one compare with Oedipa's efforts to understand W.A.S.T.E.?
>> >
>> > No idea....all individuals merging int sounds like another bat-shit
>> idea....
>> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 12:41 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Q: Although she learns much about W.A.S.T.E., Oed leaves the Bay area
>> without finding a source or definitive W.A.S.T.E. facility beyond the bin
>> and the currier's route.
>> >
>> > Trystero has no location, definitive or less than. That is part of its
>> connection to the anarchistic incursion into history....
>> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:08 AM J K Van Nort via Pynchon-l <
>> pynchon-l at waste.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry for the delay. I'm taking up the hosting for the week.
>> >
>> > Summary:After helping the sailor up the stairs and onto his "Viking
>> funeral" bed, Oed gives him money and takes his letter to mail. She heads
>> down under the freeway where she eventually finds a trash can labeled
>> W.A.S.T.E. She hovers and watches until a young man drops in a bundle. She
>> puts the letter inside and returns to her observation point until a young
>> wino gathers the contents. She follows him and his successor whom he hands
>> the bag off. She follows this wino as he delivers around Oakland.
>> Eventually she returns to her hotel, where the deaf-mute association is
>> having a silent dance where every dancing pair dances to their own music.
>> She is waltzed around the room until the synonymous break, when she flees
>> to her room. After sleeping she drives the Impala down to Kinneret,
>> deciding to visit Dr. Hilarius, who takes pock shots at her as she enters.
>> His assistant lets her into the office, where she learns that Hilarius has
>> a psychic breakdown, believing the Israeli's are after him. She tries to
>> talk him down from the precipice, but he considers her to be an enemy. He
>> relates his history as a psychiatrist in the Nazi death camp, Buchenwald.
>> He was in charge of 'faces' that would have psychotic effects on the Jewish
>> prisoners. He describes one face that can create immediate and irreparable
>> psychic damage,  which he used on one Zvi. The sirens of the police can be
>> heard, and Hilarius pulls Oed into his office, where he tells her the
>> details, including his efforts to pay 'penance' by attempting to become a
>> believer of Freud.
>> >
>> > Questions:
>> > Although she learns much about W.A.S.T.E., Oed leaves the Bay area
>> without finding a source or definitive W.A.S.T.E. facility beyond the bin
>> and the currier's route. Why does she think that Dr Hilarius will help her?
>> >
>> > How does Hilarius' crimes in Buchenwald move the plot forward or help
>> to understand either character?
>> >
>> > Is Oedipa Jewish? How does her response to Hilarius' revelations expand
>> her character?
>> >
>> > How does Hilarius' explanation of LSD and blending of individuals into
>> one compare with Oedipa's efforts to understand W.A.S.T.E.?
>> >
>> > In solidarity,
>> > James
>> >
>> >
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