(np) Common Sense imho

[Mark Kohut]

REUTERS: Opposition party has 73% of the vote.......

there are seven dead now....

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 8:19 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> 44 % in a country of 29 million could make a large groundswell, just like
> Trump’s Maga groupies, but that doesn’t mean they won the election. The US
> state department is not the deciding or even reasonable arbiter of election
> results in Venezuela , and even they have not made a clear statement about
> election fraud, just vague “concerns”. 11 people are already dead, and you
> 2 cheer it on.
>
> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 5:00 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There are many components at play, but I think the people who are now
> > fighting with their own blood, add the sheer numbers of their
> groundswell,
> > want one simple thing:
> >
> > HAVE DEMOCRACY
> > ENFORCE the will of the vote!
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 4:46 PM Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> https://www.gregpalast.com/how-to-stop-putins-war-windfall-by-ending-our-embargo-of-venezuelan-oil/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> “This is a country which has a 2 million barrel a day OPEC allotment,
> and
> >> we’re getting almost none of it. And they have tremendous gas reserves.
> So,
> >> if the Germans are afraid that Putin will cut off their pipe, well, stop
> >> cutting off Venezuela’s pipe. Because it’s not only the United States,
> it’s
> >> the European Union and Britain, which are saying we won’t take
> Venezuelan
> >> oil.
> >>
> >> “And even more, we won’t let Venezuela pump the oil, because the embargo
> >> has stopped them from getting the parts and equipment that they need to
> >> keep their oil industry running, which is quite complex because it’s
> based
> >> on heavy oil, so it’s very difficult without the parts, the expertise,
> and
> >> the funding.
> >>
> >> “For example, the Koch Brothers have a refinery on the Gulf Coast of
> Texas.
> >> They were the number one customer of Venezuela. We took the oil that
> >> Venezuela sent us to the Koch Brothers’ refinery, and the US treasury
> >> seized all the money. When Venezuela sells oil, they can’t get the
> money,
> >> so, obviously, they’re not going to sell it to us or to Europe because
> they
> >> can’t get the money, so their oil production is extremely limited.
> >>
> >> “People are literally starving in Venezuela, and they don’t have
> medicine
> >> to fight COVID. It’s cruel. It’s horrible. If Putin were doing this in
> >> Ukraine, we’d be screaming and hollering, but yet we’re doing it to
> >> Venezuela. And who’s suffering from it? We are, because we’re knocking
> more
> >> than a million barrels a day out of the world market.
> >>
> >> “This is a leftover Trump disaster. Trump cutoff Venezuela, ordered the
> >> embargo, ordered the blockade. Why? Well, number one, they say
> Venezuela is
> >> not really a democratic nation. So, instead we’re getting our oil and
> gas
> >> from the democratic nation of Saudi Arabia? By the way, our biggest
> source
> >> of imports to the West is Russia. So the great democracies we’d rather
> get
> >> our gas from are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Russia, and Kazakhstan? These are
> the
> >> great democracies we’re getting oil from instead of Venezuela?”
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